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Old 05-13-2011, 11:41 PM   #1
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4x4 basics: Quigley vs SMB vs....

Hi, I looked and couldn't see any sticky or FAQ threads.... so please help me out.

I have a 99 E350 V10 extended cargo van, bare bones, that I use for camping, hauling my astronomy gear, and towing. I'm thinking about getting a newer SMB V10 4x4, but I see some have the Quigley 4x4 conversion, and some have the SMB. Other than the dual range, and the front wheels being a little further forward on the SMB 4x4, what are the other major differences/pros/cons between the two systems, and has either changed much over the years? Are there distinct versions of each?

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Old 05-14-2011, 08:35 AM   #2
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Re: 4x4 basics: Quigley vs SMB vs....

Go to the Quadvan website and look at the 4x4 van comparison chart they have up.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:57 AM   #3
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The only chart I could find the compared "quad van" vs "competitor" and it wasn't very specific, eg didn't cover things like sway bar disconnect, steering wheel relocation, approach angle, suspension travel, durability...
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Re: 4x4 basics: Quigley vs SMB vs....

Can't find it, but I did see a $70,000 EB with nothing but some Aluminess accessories...

SMB4x4 has the Atlas which gives you low range in a single axle if you want.
Quigley has F-350 t-case

SMB4x4 has a Pro-Rock Dana 60, a custom offroad axle, in front.
Quigely has F-350 Dana 60

SMB4x4 is leaf springs all around
Quigley is coils in front.

SMB4x4 has a better turning radius by a little more than a van width when doing a full circle (95 Quigley vs. 2005 SMB)

You can do "the trick" with an SMB. The only person I know to have done it had to replace the transmission. Coincidence?

There are other options to get a F-series truck transplant, but nobody else (AFIK) offers the AtlasII.

In conclusion: either.
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Old 05-14-2011, 09:48 AM   #5
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Re: 4x4 basics: Quigley vs SMB vs....

There are other threads about the various 4wd systems. The ones that come to mind are:

- Sportsmobile
- Salem Kroger
- Quigley
- QuadVan
- Advanced 4wd
- Whitefeather

Here are a couple of threads:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5596

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6819

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Re: 4x4 basics: Quigley vs SMB vs....

Thanks, that first thread was pretty helpful (I had searched for 4x4 in title, duh)

When did Quigley change their front end to improve turn radius? (I'm looking at 99-08 ish SMBs)
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:42 AM   #7
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Re: 4x4 basics: Quigley vs SMB vs....

"You can do "the trick" with an SMB. The only person I know to have done it had to replace the transmission. Coincidence?"

The only tricks I know don't involve transmissions or SMB's unless you've got the bed out...
So what trick would this be?
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Re: 4x4 basics: Quigley vs SMB vs....

I've had both:

WARNING: TWO BIT OPINIONS COMING!

I kinda hated the Quigley after a while. It wandered all over the road despite thousands in rebuilds and improvements (new ball joints, tie rods, bushings, Bilsteins, Deavers etc.). The 33" inch tires rubbed incessantly, the transfer case hung down so it's unprotected aluminum case would act as your skidplate. I don't know what the consensus is on the Quigley, but it seems like the bobbing, wobbling and wandering are kinda normal.

The SMB is still a big truck, but tracks very well, rides much better than the Quigley (even before Deavers--more later), is much more maneuverable, has more ground clearance, sports 35" tires that don't rub and a beautiful transfer case nicely tucked up where it should be. Also has Dynatracs front and rear (including full-floater). Of course it cost twice as much, but makes me happier by far.

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Does the "trick" involve improving a Quigley?
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