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Old 07-31-2013, 10:57 PM   #1
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New Tie Rod Ends, Drag LInk Ends and Ball Joints @ 65K Miles

I had a surprise when I went in for an alignment yesterday. Everything was scary shot. It gradually snuck up on me but the mechanic immediately noticed the play on his pre-alignment test drive. It does seem premature but I'm not really complaining thinking of the washboard and rough roads in a heavy vehicle with big tires. I'm mostly just alerting people to be checking their front end suspension parts a bit more frequently than they would in a regular vehicle. My Jeep 4x4 Comanche has 165K on the original suspension. This is one of the early SMB 4x4's and everything sources to 95-99 F-350 components. I guess this could go in the what did I do to my SMB today topic - oh about $1600!

Leaving for Bishop, Ca. on Friday for Lake Sabrina and some very easy camping. I hope all those new nuts are tight.

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Old 08-01-2013, 01:38 PM   #2
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My last ball joint replacement lasted about 30K miles. I got tired of it and had 4-wheel parts do the Pro Steer Ball Joint Kit replacement. Hopefully it will go longer; time will tell but looks good.
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Drivetrain-D ... QgoduFEA0A
About 900 bucks OTD and they even re-packed the wheel bearing one of which had to be replaced. They did it in about 6 hours and I thought it was a reasonable deal considering the kit cost over 650.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:12 PM   #3
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Re: New Tie Rod Ends, Drag LInk Ends and Ball Joints @ 65K M

I'm about ready to do the Pro Steer ball joint install as well. This is an awesome thread on the install. http://sportsmobileforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8174
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I'm about ready to do the Pro Steer ball joint install as well. This is an awesome thread on the install. http://sportsmobileforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8174
Somehow I had missed that thread. So 50-60K miles seems to be more the norm or even the outer limit! Anyway for just the ball joints it also was 6 hrs labor but at $80/ hr. Also there were 4 very profitable for them Moog ball joints which they charged me $300 for, which is over double any price you see on Google for K0026 & K8607T. I was in a bind and had to get it done ASAP so couldn't shop around. Nice and tight again - now to add suspension parts to the 10K mile super check.

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Old 08-01-2013, 06:58 PM   #5
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I think most depends on the weight of the van and where you take it. My first set lasted just over 40K and the second set about 30K miles but I do travel some rough stuff at times. At +/-12.2K lbs depending what's in the van, I think the overall weight matters more than the terrain.

The first job set me back about 1200 bucks but the installer didn't get the inner axle clean and the seal leaked. Three times back and I finally gave up, then took it to a different shop. Those guys did a good enough job that I returned for the second time around but being the 2nd set of ball joints only lasted 30K miles I made the switch to the Dyna Trac kit.

I didn't have a clue what 4-Wheel Parts were going to charge me but being they had to order the kit I figured I'd give em a chance. When I was told the charge for the parts and labor I thought they forgot to bill me for the kit...maybe they did
BTW, they did it on a Saturday...no vacation day required like before.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:15 PM   #6
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I'm about ready to do the Pro Steer ball joint install as well. This is an awesome thread on the install. http://sportsmobileforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8174
Somehow I had missed that thread. So 50-60K miles seems to be more the norm or even the outer limit! Anyway for just the ball joints it also was 6 hrs labor but at $80/ hr. Also there were 4 very profitable for them Moog ball joints which they charged me $300 for, which is over double any price you see on Google for K0026 & K8607T. I was in a bind and had to get it done ASAP so couldn't shop around. Nice and tight again - now to add suspension parts to the 10K mile super check.

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The Moogs go for $45 to $70 ea. depending on their supplier. That, and probably 30% markup and parts quickly add up. Hopefully, they stand by their work.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:06 AM   #7
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Re: New Tie Rod Ends, Drag LInk Ends and Ball Joints @ 65K M

Nice thread and posts.....Is the pro steer kit that is linked above compatible with the quigley front end? Looks like the link is showing jeep parts....if this kit is not compatible does anyone know which quality ball joints work on a quigley? Looking to do everything on the front end soon....
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Re: New Tie Rod Ends, Drag LInk Ends and Ball Joints @ 65K M

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Nice thread and posts.....Is the pro steer kit that is linked above compatible with the quigley front end? Looks like the link is showing jeep parts....if this kit is not compatible does anyone know which quality ball joints work on a quigley? Looking to do everything on the front end soon....
Some of the Quigleys don't have Ball Joints and have King Pin front axles - you really have to know what axle Quigley used in your application. Surest method is to contact Quigley and find out what you have and then check Dynatrac's application guide.

When it comes to factory style Ball Joint selection in desert racing, the consensus is that Napa Premium Ball Joints (the one's with the blue dust cover) are the best and outlast Ford and Moog units.
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Nice thread and posts.....Is the pro steer kit that is linked above compatible with the quigley front end? Looks like the link is showing jeep parts....if this kit is not compatible does anyone know which quality ball joints work on a quigley? Looking to do everything on the front end soon....
Some of the Quigleys don't have Ball Joints and have King Pin front axles - you really have to know what axle Quigley used in your application. Surest method is to contact Quigley and find out what you have and then check Dynatrac's application guide.

When it comes to factory style Ball Joint selection in desert racing, the consensus is that Napa Premium Ball Joints (the one's with the blue dust cover) are the best and outlast Ford and Moog units.
Nice tip. That is a great part of this forum.
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When it comes to factory style Ball Joint selection in desert racing, the consensus is that Napa Premium Ball Joints (the one's with the blue dust cover) are the best and outlast Ford and Moog units.
I was planning on asking you about this eventually, so this thread is probably as good a time as any. There seems to be quite a following on ford-trucks.com using XRF ball joints:

http://www.xrfchassis.com/

Baja and other SMB'ers: What have you heard/experienced with xrf ball joints and would you select Napa Premium over XRF?

Eh?

[BTW: jwintersteller your thread rocks! Thank you for posting it, it probably should be made a sticky.]
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