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Old 03-02-2013, 06:26 PM   #1
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Nitto vs. Toyo

Looking at new tires. I currently have Nitto's. Apples to Apples, the Terra Grappler vs. Open Country A/T, the Toyo is $50 more per tire.

I thought these were essentially the same tire made by the same manufacturer. Does anyone have any experience with both that would lead you to recommend paying the extra $50 per tire to get the Toyo's over the Nitto's?

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Old 03-02-2013, 08:57 PM   #2
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Off topic, have you checked out Toyo open country Mt?
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:01 PM   #3
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I was linked to this thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9615&hilit=nitto when i asked a similar question in this thread viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10509

i love nitto tires. was kinda bummed to read all that as i love the looks of thier off road tires. ill stick with them for my camber impared cars though, lol.

i want the m55 toyos, but just cant afford 5 of those right now. leaning twords the open country at2's (found 5 for about a grand shipped at onlinetires.com). i really want a mud tire cause i love the aggressive looks, but i dont think i really need them. the at2 has the mud lug looks on the sides, but have a at tread pattern.

ive trusted the bfgs for years with my toyota, but this is my first venture with a rig this size and with all the failures ive seen just on this forum, I have to heed to the advice of the gents that have driven this road before me.
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My Toyos don't hold the road as well as my Cooper AT3's do in inclement weather. The newly designed Toyo AT2's may be a different story.
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Looking at new tires. I currently have Nitto's. Apples to Apples, the Terra Grappler vs. Open Country A/T, the Toyo is $50 more per tire.

I thought these were essentially the same tire made by the same manufacturer. Does anyone have any experience with both that would lead you to recommend paying the extra $50 per tire to get the Toyo's over the Nitto's?

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I've had toyo open country ATs on the van for 3 years. Very happy with them. I have often read that toyo and nittos are made by the same company, but have no independent knowledge of that.

A month ago I decided it was time for new tires and assumed I'd just get another set of toyo open country ATs. It turns out that toyo has introduced a "new" version of that tire, the open country AT2. Unfortunately, the max load rating for the E tires in this new version of the tire are considerably down from the old version. My old tires had a max load rating of 3970 versus 3195 in the new version, same size and both E rated. A email to toyo asking what changed brought an incoherent reply about international tire standards, etc.......that was completely useless.

In checking for alternatives, I noticed that the load rating on the nittos remains the same, about 3750 IIRC for the size I need.

In the end I found a set of the "old" open country ATs. But if I can't get those next time, I will likely go with the nittos.

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Old 03-03-2013, 08:15 AM   #6
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Let me be a little more specific. I have the Nitto A/Ts now. I'm wondering if the Toyo A/Ts are $500 better.

My previous research indicated they were pretty much the same, making the Nittos a relative bargain.
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I hadn't noticed the change to the load rating. That might be the definitive "no", not worth the extra $50...

Edit: Just double checked the load rating for my tire size. They are identical.

So, is it reasonable to expect $50 worth of better tread life out of the Toyos (relative to the Nitos)?
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Off topic, have you checked out Toyo open country Mt?
I went round and round on A/T vs M/T during my build. In the end I conceded that as much as I fantasize about driving my van on trails like I drive my Jeep, the reality is I do not.

Also, the van is more likely to see snow than mud. I learned long ago in Minnesota that M/T tires are not the way to go in snow.

So, as much as I love the look of the M/Ts, that just isn't where the van gets used.
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Off topic, have you checked out Toyo open country Mt?
I went round and round on A/T vs M/T during my build. In the end I conceded that as much as I fantasize about driving my van on trails like I drive my Jeep, the reality is I do not.

Also, the van is more likely to see snow than mud. I learned long ago in Minnesota that M/T tires are not the way to go in snow.

So, as much as I love the look of the M/Ts, that just isn't where the van gets used.
Purely out of vanity I would get the MT. We don't see much snow here in So Cal.
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Purely out of vain I would get the MT. We don't see much snow here in So Cal.
I will not fall for vanity. I will stay focused on practicality. I will not fall for vanity. I will stay focused on practicality. I will not fall for vanity. I will stay focused on practicality...

You know, for my ridiculous van.
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