I'm sorry I can't answer your question. I considered how much mud/sand driving I would be doing compared to pavement, dirt, fire roads, snow, jeep roads, etc, and decided to go with the Toyo AT's instead of the MT's. I have been very pleased with them. We drove them in 6" of snow in Colorado and they were fine, even in 2WD. We drove up out of the Gunnison River in 6" of snow in two wheel drive (2,000 foot gain in 5 miles). I didn't put it into 4 wheel drive until we hooked our strap onto a rental car that was stuck in the road and pulled him the last mile and a half out of the canyon. I've driven in mud on the dirt roads around Silverton and they were fine. I haven't had them in a swamp situation or deep sand so can't tell about that. They are very quite and I like the way they handle. We averaged 11.98 miles per gallon on our 3,000 mile trip and did a lot of dirt roads. oclv
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