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Old 08-19-2009, 09:12 PM   #1
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What is your tire size without fender flares

Greetings,

Who has a 4x4 van without fender flares?
What is the widest tire width possible without fender flares?
I have seen a Ford Quigley 4x4 van with no fender flares, 17" rims and this on the tire 315/70/R17 (35")

A wider footprint=better traction, on rock, snow, sand..
I know fender flares are needed with much bigger tires.

Any suggestions are appreciated!

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Old 08-20-2009, 12:19 AM   #2
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

Are you trying to stay "legal"??
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:51 PM   #3
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

I think it will depends on the year, (coil vs leaf). My van has 305/55/20 (33") on a standard quigley 06 with coil front and no rubbing on the fender, but they rub the torsion bar on lock. This is easily fixed by limiting the wheel lock which is huge in a coil front anyway. (Thanks UJoint for the info on that). I'm going to be moving to something more suitable like a 33" on a 17" wheel.
But I won't be going any wider than 305 or 33" diameter as I can see where the 315 @ 33.5" the original owner had at one point rubbed the inner fender on the rear.
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:09 PM   #4
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

285/70 17 on my Quigley 4x4.

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Old 08-21-2009, 01:15 AM   #5
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

Tire size is one aspect, don't forget about the rim offset it will impact the overall width also.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:25 AM   #6
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

Greetings,

Thanks for the good replies.

UJOINT-What is the size of your tires, and the rim offset?
How many inches is your lift-12"?!?
Good traction with that setup? And what is your MPG?

AndrewST-Good point about the offset-I am aware of this.
Once I have the tire width decision made, the offset will be factored in.
May be getting fender flares to go big. Thanks.

j.whitbread-I may go with 285 or 305 Toyo Terra Grapplers.
Do your tires rub the wheel wells when doing any 4x4 or rock gardens?

SheepShagger-Good point-I have coils and Blistiens up front, and
leaf springs and Road Masters at the back.
Also a 6" lift, so I have enough clearance to go big. Not like UJOINT though.

Any other suggestions are appreciated!

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Old 08-21-2009, 08:44 AM   #7
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

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j.whitbread-I may go with 285 or 305 Toyo Terra Grapplers.
Do your tires rub the wheel wells when doing any 4x4 or rock gardens?
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:35 PM   #8
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

I believe the offset should be 0 up to 8 or 9" rim width & 315 tire width, after that I have no clue. I would assume you will need a positive offset to start sticking more of the wheel outside the fender's. With a coil front maybe you could go wider and keep 0 offset, but with a leaf front I'm sure you would be severely limiting the steering. UJoint would be the person who knows for sure.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:12 PM   #9
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Re: What is your tire size without fender flares

To All,

Looks like 285-315 width tires will work fine without fender flares.
Any other experiences or suggestions are appreciated!
So, for those who have 315" or wider tires, what is the size?
What clear advantages do you experience with a wider footprint?
Obviously using wide tiires while driving in sand is beneficial. Baja....
What about rocks, snow,......is the wider tire setup worth the cash spent and a loss of MPG?

Thanks SheepShagger for your insights.

Are you there UJOINT?
What is the size of your tires, and the rim offset?
How many inches is your lift-12"?!?
Good traction with that setup? And what is your MPG?
Any suggestions, besides legal or not?


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