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Old 03-22-2009, 11:08 AM   #1
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What's Your Front Down Travel?

I'm trying to get a feel for what other folks with the SMB 4x4 setup have for down travel on the front end. Mine has only 2" before the bump stops hit. Anyone have much more??
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:05 PM   #2
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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

I think mine is a little less than that, but close.

Didn't you pick up a little extra travel (I would call it up travel to the bump stops) with the Deaver springs?

How did your Deaver install go? I'm there on Tuesday for mine.

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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

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I have 1 1/2 inches (of up travel!) with 2008 OEM Old Man Emu Dakar springs.

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Old 03-22-2009, 04:27 PM   #4
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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

Up, down, down, up - whatever. I think you guys are right. Anyway, what I was referring to was the amount of travel the van frame could go down before there was contact with the bump stops. (This is the amount the axle goes up, hence I'm wrong) Wow, that's a first

Before I went to Deaver I had 1-1/2" of travel. Now I have 2", but the Bilsteins they installed on the front only have the same 2" and on the drive home up Hwy. 99 I must have bottomed out on the shock as the upper mounting bolt is now bent and the little rubber O-ring, that's on the shaft that will indicate how much the shock has traveled, was mushed up against the shock body. I didn't feel any of this contact, but there is no doubt that the shock bottomed out, and hard enough to bend the mounting bolt. Not good. I will be calling them on Monday to see what can be done. I'm very happy with the ride, a great improvement over the stock SMB springs.

Phil, when you go in, you might mention you talked to me and be sure they correct several things.
1) They need to shim out their track bar where it fastens to the new right spring U-bolt/shock plate. Mine wasn't out enough and it was rubbing on my cross member. I mentioned it and they sent a guy under there with a grinder and took out part of my cross member. WAY too much. 1/8" would have done it and he cut out a 1/2" section. I might have to weld a plate in there to strengthen it now.
2) Get shorter Bilsteins in front. My number is:
AK7110SB06
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(I'll be calling Bilstein before I call Jeff to see what's available.)
3) There is now no bump stop on the rear. They removed the Ford spings and U-bolt plate and that had the stock bump stop mounted on it. Jeff sez he'll be sending me a fix, but you might get one while you're there.

Jeff was super to deal with and very helpful. Gave me a ride back to the motel and called with updates on the work while I was at Dizzyland.

I'll give a full report after I get things corrected and hit the Baja dirt in a few weeks.
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:44 PM   #5
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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

Ooooo! Let's see some pics of the new springs!!

I'm puzzled about the incorrect shock. I thought they had all this geometry worked out?
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:49 AM   #6
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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

Scatter -

Thanks for the input. Those would all be concerns to me.

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Old 03-23-2009, 08:57 AM   #7
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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

I just checked an old post I made and those are the same model front shocks that were a tad too long for Jeff's SMB.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=907&hilit=bilstein

Not sure I'll have them put on or not. There's a local guy that wanted to work with Fox to get shocks for me.

Hmmmm.
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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

Phil, I just talked with Jeff and he is being VERY helpful with this. He said you probably won't be going out of his shop with these shocks. (The rears are fine by the way, perfect length) For the front, Bilstein does not make a shorter body shock in the valving we need for these heavy rigs. Jeff is making calls as I write, looking for an alternative. I might go with an after market shock tower so I can use the Bilsteins if Jeff can't find what he thinks is an acceptable shock. Right now I'm just sitting around waiting to see what happens.

j.whitbread, photos and more info when I figure out what's happening. Deaver has it all pretty dialed in on the springs, but he hasn't done a whole package with shocks before. I just love beta mode....
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:29 AM   #9
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Re: What's Your Front Down Travel?

Jeff just called me and I am going to leave my van with him for over a week to let him use it as a template and get everything dialed in. I agree, he is exceptional to deal with so far and it is obvious he wants totally satisfied customers. I'd prefer to have it done right and not have the van for a week rather than snapping off shocks in Death Valley in my upcoming trip.

Gotta go work so I can pay for this stuff .....

Stay tuned.
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BTW .... Glad you went first Scatter!

Thanks for being the Beta.
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