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Old 11-17-2011, 03:02 PM   #21
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Re: Winch requirements

Looking to put a winch in the Aluminess front bumper and trying to make sense of this thread. Looks like someone stated a stock front end can handle 9000 lbs or so. Does that mean unless you reinforce the front end anything winch over 9000 lbs is not going to help?

Does reinforcing the front and putting on a 16,000lb Warn the best option?

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Old 11-17-2011, 05:21 PM   #22
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Re: Winch requirements

The best option?

That's like asking which is best, gas or diesel?

The answer is: The one that works best for you and your needs. Do you need to be winched up a dry falls, out of a mud hole or off the beach? For some the answer will be a 6K winch, for others 18K may not be enough. Look at the situations you get into and the equipment needed to get out and maybe you can decide what will work for you.

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Old 11-17-2011, 05:33 PM   #23
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Re: Winch requirements

I guess I need to prepare for the worst case scenario as I can't predict what I will get into....
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Re: Winch requirements

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I guess I need to prepare for the worst case scenario as I can't predict what I will get into....
My suggestion.... Don't get the largest winch. Instead, put a longer winch-line on it, and carry lots of blocks and rigging. Proper rigging is infinitely more useful than an oversize winch. Sure, you won't pull as fast with a 10k winch and a 3-part line, but unless you are winching daily, I suspect the extra 10-minutes to do a multi-part setup won't be the end of the world. The extra rigging will also ensure you can pull the most advantageous direction. The strongest winch in the world won't do any good if you can't pull the right direction.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:49 PM   #25
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Re: Winch requirements

Great info Carring, just read online a few minutes ago that 1.5 times your weight was a good starting point. Does not seem practical with our vehicles right?

Maybe a 12,000 lb with the added accessories you mentioned would be a good compromise?
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Re: Winch requirements

I posted this a few months ago: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7332

I understand the 18k version has the same dimensions so it may fit.

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Old 11-18-2011, 10:34 PM   #27
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Re: Winch requirements

I'd also look at the electrical requirements of a larger winch especially with a vehicle that has a single battery and small standard alternator.
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Old 11-19-2011, 09:09 AM   #28
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Re: Winch requirements

FWIW, made a visit to Aluminess yesterday and spoke with Tim about the pieces and parts I needed for the van. Spoke about winches too. He suggested a minimum of 12,000 but stated the Warm 16.5 would work too just needed the mods discussed here. He also stated that they are close in weight so he did not think it really mattered which one I went with in that range. He did suggest going with the synthetic for weight etc as you guys have mentioned.

Probably going to go with the Warn 16.5ti with synthetic and have them do the install while they are doing everything else.

Surprised at the 507 amp draw at maximum load. I have four batteries so should be ok there.
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Re: Winch requirements

When using synthetic winchline, always try to freespool the line out and not power it out. With winches, extending the line out under power is done by applying the winch brake to control the speed, which with most winches generates considerable heat in the drum, potentially melting the inner warps of the synthetic line. The only time you should be extending the line out under power, is if you are lower an object/vehicle by extending the line.

My Superwinch has the brake external to the drum, so its not really an issue, but its good practice to freespool the line if at all possible.

Viking Offroad (same as Winchline.com) is where I bought my winch and synthetic line from. They're a great source.


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Old 11-19-2011, 09:37 AM   #30
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Re: Winch requirements

Great info Herb. I just read Warn's Winching Techniques online and it has some great tips as well. I plan doing a lot of practice before use. Took the winching class at the Hollister's Off Road expo a couple weeks back and learned some tips there. Like to take a more extensive one soon.
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