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05-03-2019, 12:58 PM
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Wanting to tow a toyhauler plus toys
Is it true?! Tell me it isn't!!! I can only haul 10,000 with my 2002 E350 V10. Any suggestions short of buying a new diesel? Thanks gang :/
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05-03-2019, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimzero
Is it true?! Tell me it isn't!!! I can only haul 10,000 with my 2002 E350 V10. Any suggestions short of buying a new diesel? Thanks gang :/
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Upgrade the hitch to a class 5 (this was the factory limitation) and swap to 4.56 gears, which kick your GCWR up to 20,000 pound or 22,000 with a 10.5" ring gear.
Note... if your axle is a semi-float, swap it for a full-float rather than just changing ratios.
Note: Seem like since the van body went out of production, off-the-shelf receivers greater than 12k rated have gone away too. Might need to think about a Buckstop towing bumper if you need more than that. Those are good for 20k. I'll post a pic Monday when I get it put back on (went in for refurb).
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05-03-2019, 01:49 PM
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Where are you located? In California you can't tow more than 10k on a tag trailer anyway without a commercial license (I know that lot's of people still do.) You also can't tow doubles without a commercial license, and even then, you definitely can't tow doubles with 2 tags (as in Carringb's photo) in CA. What's your trailer weigh, or are you just weighing your options?
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05-03-2019, 02:04 PM
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How big of a toy hauler are you planning to tow?
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2005 E350 Chateau - V10 - Agile Offroad 4x4
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05-03-2019, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mikracer
How big of a toy hauler are you planning to tow?
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Yuge. A yuge one.
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05-15-2019, 11:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carringb
Upgrade the hitch to a class 5 (this was the factory limitation) and swap to 4.56 gears, which kick your GCWR up to 20,000 pound or 22,000 with a 10.5" ring gear.
Note... if your axle is a semi-float, swap it for a full-float rather than just changing ratios.
Note: Seem like since the van body went out of production, off-the-shelf receivers greater than 12k rated have gone away too. Might need to think about a Buckstop towing bumper if you need more than that. Those are good for 20k. I'll post a pic Monday when I get it put back on (went in for refurb).
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Nice set up! Have you ever gotten stuck trying back up and had to disconnect the last trailer while wearing the cone of shame?
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05-16-2019, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Zappo
Nice set up! Have you ever gotten stuck trying back up and had to disconnect the last trailer while wearing the cone of shame?
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I did get stuck in a snowy neighborhood once, where the snow piles didn't leave enough space for a U-turn and I needed the slides facing the other way. So it was basically 1/4 mile of backing both trailers, a 3 point turn, then another 1/4 mile back to the house where we were staying.
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05-16-2019, 11:27 AM
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sorry for delay....25 foot Rage'n with quad and 4 seater can am inside. approx 14,000 lbs
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05-16-2019, 11:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLetterJ
Where are you located? In California you can't tow more than 10k on a tag trailer anyway without a commercial license (I know that lot's of people still do.) You also can't tow doubles without a commercial license, and even then, you definitely can't tow doubles with 2 tags (as in Carringb's photo) in CA. What's your trailer weigh, or are you just weighing your options?
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What is a tag trailer, TheletterJ??
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05-16-2019, 01:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nimzero
sorry for delay....25 foot Rage'n with quad and 4 seater can am inside. approx 14,000 lbs
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You'll definitely want to swap to a 4.56 diff ratio and 10.5" ring gear by swapping in a Dana70 or Sterling axle. If you have a full float now, it might already be a Dana 70 with a D60 carrier, so it's an easy upgrade). Just have to check the casting stamp next to the diff cover.
That's enough trailer you'll need the Buckstop-Reunel towing bumper:
https://reunel.com/rear-bumpers/
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