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Old 10-18-2013, 12:55 PM   #1
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Boy scout "leaders"? What were they thinking???

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Old 10-18-2013, 01:10 PM   #2
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Idiots. Got caught, and now they're trying to justify their actions by saying they were concerned for people's safety.

In this technological world where people publicly share everything they do, no one gets a free pass, well except for politicians and celebrities.


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Old 10-18-2013, 01:18 PM   #3
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Those are not Scout leaders. They are young, testosterone filled males being jerks. God, I hope I wasn't like that when I was that age.

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Old 10-18-2013, 05:53 PM   #4
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It's sad to see people can be that way. A little common sense goes a long way.
Several years back me and a buddy caught a couple of high school aged idiots rolling erratics into a canyon while we were passing by on a trail. The crashing noises could be heard from a long distance away. Friggin idiots. We promply escorted them out of the area but the damage had been done.
At least these guys here were dumb enough to video themselves. I hope something is done with these guys. If not they'll just continue.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:55 PM   #5
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We've probably done things that we're not proud of, but once you realize it, or are called out on it, man-up, admit it, try to fix it, apologize, and learn from your mistakes.


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Old 10-18-2013, 08:14 PM   #6
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Lots of dumb folks in all walks of life. I once hiked out the Bright Angel trail in Grand Canyon to find an elderly couple throwing rocks off the edge. They were at the top of the trailhead. Duh, where did they think the trail went? To them, they were just throwing rocks into the abyss.
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Completely amazed that these were Scout Leaders, well maybe not. Anyway just to put a positive spin back on scouts, this was our troop this year at Fort Stevens State Park, OR. We usually do a little service project when visiting there every year. The last couple of years has been removing Scotch Broom. Here are some pics of the scouts in action.



And here is the crew at the end of a couple of hours of hard work



Basically you just have cut the stuff down and let it die. The park is in a constant fight against this invasive plant. The neat thing is going back a year later and seeing the actual results of your work.

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Long article about this in today's Salt Lake Tribune newspaper. The guys were very apologetic and admitted they made a mistake. They said they are willing to take any punishment meted out by the Boy Scouts and/or law enforcement. It made it sound like they made an honest mistake in trying to rectify an unsafe situation. However, when I watch the video I don't see an unsafe situation. They said in the paper someone could be walking under it and could have gotten killed. In the video it doesn't look like someone could walk under it. They also said the boys were playing a game where they jumped from one rock formation to another. They said they were afraid someone would jump on the rock and get hurt when it broke off. Too bad they weren't smart enough Boy Scout leaders to tell their boys not to jump on the delicate rock formations in the first place. As a Scout Leader I am saddened that some Boy Scout leaders have no clue about what the Boy Scouts of America are all about!!!!!! This violates the BSA conservation values and Leave No Trace principles.

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Can we start a fund to pay for their incarceration? The good news is there are 100's of real leaders in Scouting who will all immediately require their removal and banishment from scouting.

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I sincerely hope they are kicked out of scouting, banned from Utah State Parks for life and fined $10,000!

Totally disgusting!

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