Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-14-2011, 06:25 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,718
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Quote:
Originally Posted by TroySmith80
Bill, i hope you don't mind, i borrowed some of wilson's goodies for visualization! By the way, it appears that my top is just a couple inches taller than the cruiser, almost the same size overall.

no worries bro
thats why we do this
Great job!
__________________

billwilson is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2011, 03:02 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: San Diego
Posts: 288
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Congrats!

Waiting obviously paid off in the long run.
__________________

__________________
1995 SMB Quigley 7.3 EB
"a quality, stock 460 is a real pleasure" - twogone
blupaddler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2011, 08:55 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
bettyford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Rockport Tx. & Jackson Hole Wy
Posts: 1,152
Send a message via MSN to bettyford
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Sweet Ride and That thing is huge. congrats.

Ron
__________________
2006 E350 EX SMB
1991 GS100PD
Going where most dont
"one day at a time"
bettyford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2011, 04:28 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
TroySmith80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 219
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Well, i finally got this thing home. It was a fiasco! And there are problems with the van. I did renegotiate a bit lower price. I guess i feel ok about it, but unfortunately i can't say i'm super excited about the whole thing. The van needs more work than i was hoping for (i suppose that's just about always the case when you're buying one this old). It seems to not be making much power, or shifting correctly, but so far consensus is that these are probably relatively inexpensive fixes, mostly related to sensors and other electrical gizmos, and that there is nothing majorly wrong with any hard parts... we'll see.

I was very dissapointed by the fuel mileage! On the freeway at 70-ish or just couple mph over, i was gettting about 9mpg. This is a virtually empty van. On the highway at about 62-65 it got 10-11 mpg. I was hoping for 12-16 depending on conditions, with a LOADED van. Maybe that was unrealistic? The top is very tall. It has the 351 V8 and it seems pretty gutless. It is slower on steep hills than my subaru-westy was. I'm hoping for gains in both power and economy when we get everything operating correctly.

Fuel tank is about 20 gallons, so i'm gassing up every 150 miles! That will have to change! I want a minimum 300 mile range without jerry cans. 450+ would be better.

Rust is a bit more of a problem than the previous owner indicated when asked. Also, the rear doors have been extended in height for a wheel chair lift clearance. This was not done very well and there are a lot of leaks and rust in that area.

Also, the roof was cut out from just above the windshield, all the way back to the rear doors. They even cut out the very rear part that the top of the doors latches too (for the increased height at rear doors). This means that the rear doors don't latch as securely and rattle / leak. Also, i'm concerned about rollover safety since there is not a single roof cross member left. I think i will weld in a couple pieces of square tube above the front seats, and 3 or 4 across the rear 1/3 of the van (build the upper bunk on top of those). I also am going to have to do something with the rear doors.

On the positive side, the permanent high top has already been great. When stopping for just a short time, it's already up and i can stand straight up ALL THE TIME. Also, it was snowing and raining like crazy almost the whole time, and i hate to put pop-tops up when they'll get wet. No worries there. SO the top is nice. But in all honesty, if i can't get at least 12 mpg out of this thing on the highway, i might not be able to afford to road trip in the damn thing!

Another positive. The Advanced 4x4 conversion seems to ride quite nice, even without a load in the van, and it turns very sharp. It's a very easy and casual '2-finger-steering' van even passing semis at freeway speeds. It doesn't seem to have too much sway in the corners, although it is helpful to practice your smooth 'limo-driver' technique.

Also, even with howling tires, i think it is a fair bit quieter inside than the westy was at 65, and it is much easier to hear the stereo.

So, where does that leave me right now? I'm going to take it right away to a shop that i like, and have them dial in the engine and tranny and get that operating correctly. Once that is done, we'll evaluate power levels and fuel economy and see if the van is something i'm comfortable dumping time, effort and money into. If it is, the build-up will commence. If it isn't, i guess i'll be shopping for a syncro vanagon, or a different ford, or i don't know what.


Can I ask some of you guys with the cruiser top what kind of mileage you get? (and with which engine)

**edited to correct some weird sentences... i think my brain gets ahead of my fingers and i start leaving words out**

__________________
For Sale: 1992 E-350 EB 4x4 High-Top
TroySmith80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2011, 05:38 PM   #15
Site Team
 
Ford_6L_E350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Washington - Ridgefield
Posts: 4,725
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Your mileage doesn't seem out of line. Especially since you hinted it isn't running quite right. Get it in proper tune and double check.

Consider:

Diesels get better mileage, Poptops get better mileage and I can get 16+ with my diesel poptop cruising at 60-62.

The hightop pushes a lot of air, and is not very aerodynamic.

If you want better mileage, increase the air in your tires, slow down. Maybe even verify the speedo/odometer are accurate with the change in tire size from stock.

Mike
__________________
SOLD04 EB350 Custom Floorplan
6.0 PSD 4.10 Posi
Salem Kroger coil spring 4wd
SMB Trailer w/AT Air Suspension
Alaska to Key West, Labrador and more
130685 miles 16.65 mpg average

Prostate cancer survivor. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11099
2015 VW GTI
Leaving CA for WA
Ford_6L_E350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2011, 08:49 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
jage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Franktown, CO
Posts: 7,560
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Check your gears and maybe the exhaust flow- a rusted catalytic convertor that's constricting flow maybe? That or stock gears that weren't adjusted to the larger tires.

An incorrect speedo can affect performance in the computer from what I've heard, don't know how true that is or what the symptoms are. If your speedo is way off with a GPS check, they might not have done anything to adjust for the larger tires.

20 gallons seems awfully small, did they cut it down with the conversion or something? I'm with Mike about the mileage, doesn't sound that out of line.
__________________
and then
everything changed
jage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2011, 09:10 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
TroySmith80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 219
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Quote:
I'm with Mike about the mileage, doesn't sound that out of line.
Well crap, where did i pick up the idea that a rig like this would be capable of 12-16? Maybe i was reading about guys with diesels and didnt realize it. With the way gas is going, at 10 mpg I might never have sold my 20mpg westy! too late now...

THe tires arent that big. 245/75-16. Was stock smaller? The speedo actually reads a couple mph high, according to the gps in my smartphone.

I don't know what the deal is with the gas tank, but i'm definitely going to have to replace it and/or add another to gain some capacity.
__________________
For Sale: 1992 E-350 EB 4x4 High-Top
TroySmith80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2011, 09:24 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
TroySmith80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 219
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

by the way, does anyone recognize this top and know the manufacturer? It has at least two major pieces (inner shell and outer shell) and i'd really like to know what exactly is between them. I don't think there's any easy way to have access to see. There are some holes though, and some hangers bolted to a piece of metal or wood or something in there. There seems to be places that are reinforced and places that aren't. I need an x-ray or something! :-)




__________________
For Sale: 1992 E-350 EB 4x4 High-Top
TroySmith80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2011, 09:37 AM   #19
Senior Member
 
jage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Franktown, CO
Posts: 7,560
Re: I Got Mine! '92 4x4 BIG top!

Deep scan stud finder?
__________________

__________________
and then
everything changed
jage is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

» Sportsmobile Registry

Woodstock

woodstock

Tatonka

gephoto
Add your Sportsmobile
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.