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Old 11-07-2007, 10:04 AM   #21
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You can hide it as well if you like, but I just leave mine in relatively plain sight. Again, easier to break into the car than the lock box.
I've opened two of these without the combo. With a little practice you could probably crack a cheap one in a few minutes. Not that that doesn't make it more effective than a hide-a-key- after all, anybody can come along and use a hide-a-key.
OK, that's weird. I (kzemach) didn't write this; Greg, am assuming you wrote this? I think the forum whacked out there for a bit. Whoever DID write it: was it the storakey that you cracked without the combo, or a different unit? I am a bit concerned if it's that easy to open....

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Old 11-07-2007, 11:04 AM   #22
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My bad. I wrote that, and I probably clobbered a Kzemach post while I was at it! Sorry! The admins have the power to edit, and I must have hit "edit" when I wanted to hit "quote".

Sorry for the confusion... I'm not going to try to untangle it now, but this is my statement:

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I've opened two of these without the combo. With a little practice you could probably crack a cheap one in a few minutes. Not that that doesn't make it more effective than a hide-a-key- after all, anybody can come along and use a hide-a-key.
The stor-a-key or whatever aren't bad, it's just when a realtor leaves them on your doorknob, it tends to be annoying after the second month. The first time I pulled the doorknob in question and worked the box at my leisure. The second time I opened the door and sat on a chair inside the house and worked on the box while attached to the door. Both times I was working at my leisure.

There are a finite number of combinations and in this case the order is unimportant. 310 or 130 it makes no difference. The bad news is you can set them to any number of digits, so 2 or 123456789 both work equally well. Repeating digits only matters for mnemonic devices, say you use Halloween: 1031 the second one is superfluous but useful for remembering the combo.

So opening them is as simple (heh) as figuring out which of the 10 digits are "on". Poor mechanics in the cheaper versions makes this a bit simpler than raw iteration.

I'm not saying a child could open it, I'm just refuting that they are not bomb proof protection for your key. I'm also biased, having opened these but never hotwired a car.

Again, apologies for butchering this thread!
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:12 PM   #23
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Ahh, no worries. But now you've got me thinking I need to hide mine a little bit better...
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:17 PM   #24
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We used that same lockbox on our last two vehicles. My wife kept locking her key in the minivan and then calling me to bail her out. Only took two times before I said "enough" and bought one of these for each car. Bolted one under the rear bumper on the convertible, bolted the other in the rear wheelwell on the minivan. You couldn't see either one from a casual inspection, and they were in places where a thief wouldn't have been at "leisure" to try various combos. There were in pain-in-the-ass contortionist-approved places where you were severely uncomfortable, so you'd better know the combo because you didn't want to be in that position for any longer than you had to enter the combo.

Anyway it stopped those lockout rescue calls from my wife. And a couple times I locked myself out too, so I was able to save face. Can't imagine how much crap I would have gotten if I'd have had to call my wife to bail me out of a lockout situation, after giving her grief about locking her keys in the car.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:25 PM   #25
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Here's another option, this one from AutoSportCatalog.com



A bit pricey at $80, but it would be very convenient if you have a trailer hitch. It also comes with a cover so it doesn't look so obvious.




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Old 11-08-2007, 01:27 PM   #26
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Haha, what if you want to TOW something?

I guess most people just have a Class III hanging out back they don't use.
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Note: the ones on ebay are now saying that they are certified for the 08- E series.

Conveniently unlock your vehicle without your key or keyless entry remote. No wiring necessary – programmable, backlit keypad tunes to the same frequency as your transmitter. No-drill installation. Comes with two covers: one is primed (paint to match); the other has a black textured finish. For vehicles equipped with factory remote keyless entry.

ESCORT/ZX2 - FOCUS - MUSTANG - THUNDERBIRD - TAURUS - WINDSTAR - FREESTAR - E SERIES - ESCAPE - EXPLORER - EXPEDITION - EXCURSION - RANGER - F150 - F SUPERDUTY - COUGAR - SABLE - MONTEREY - MOUNTAINEER - TOWN CAR- LINCOLN LS - BLACKWOOD - AVIATOR - NAVAGATOR.

98 TO 08 WITH KEYLESS ENTRY part number 7L2Z-14A626-BA
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:11 PM   #28
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Note: the ones on ebay are now saying that they are certified for the 08- E series.

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Conveniently unlock your vehicle without your key or keyless entry remote. No wiring necessary – programmable, backlit keypad tunes to the same frequency as your transmitter. No-drill installation. Comes with two covers: one is primed (paint to match); the other has a black textured finish. For vehicles equipped with factory remote keyless entry.

ESCORT/ZX2 - FOCUS - MUSTANG - THUNDERBIRD - TAURUS - WINDSTAR - FREESTAR - E SERIES - ESCAPE - EXPLORER - EXPEDITION - EXCURSION - RANGER - F150 - F SUPERDUTY - COUGAR - SABLE - MONTEREY - MOUNTAINEER - TOWN CAR- LINCOLN LS - BLACKWOOD - AVIATOR - NAVAGATOR.

98 TO 08 WITH KEYLESS ENTRY part number 7L2Z-14A626-BA
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