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Old 01-18-2017, 10:37 PM   #11
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Wall Mount 4 USB Charging Ports 12-16V DC Fits standard wall plates

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Old 01-18-2017, 11:59 PM   #12
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I don't like most of the DC USB units because they are always on and draining the battery. The ac plug units are off until plugged into but need a ac source. I still like the units I plug into a old school cig plug because I can pull out when not needed.
All obvious jokes aside, just drill out the LED. I may have ruined one doing that though Either way, it can't be drawing 2.1A, 1A, or the combined 3.1A with nothing plugged in. Just a small LED draw.

Or, just wire in a micro toggle switch. Did that for a cheapo battery meter until I got my solar on the roof.
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Old 01-19-2017, 08:14 AM   #13
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Flux, agreed a combo outlet would not be something found at Home Depot.

I would be curious to know of any electrical theories as to why you wouldn't want to combine AC/DC wiring in such tight spaces, for example.

They have those combo receptacles at Home Depot and Lowes...

A few comments.....USB voltage is 5V......the original USB specification is for something like 1A or less.....although it's commonplace to find USB ports that do 2+ amps these days.

The simple USB adapters that you plug into your 12V power socket (or the built-in USB ports in cars, RV's etc) are dropping 12VDC to 5VDC.

This can be done with a simple resistor but the voltage drop across a resistor is a function of current drawn....so they likely use a regulated method to achieve the 12VDC-5VDC conversion, more complex than a simple resistor. There are no transformers involved since transformers only work with AC voltage.

So the short answer is unless you want the USB ports to work on inverter or shore power, look elsewhere.

One more comment on the circular AC receptacle....although not show on the website, that needs to have some sort of backshell to meet codes and to be safe. I imagine that it has one, but it's just not shown. You don't want the bare ends of the hot AC wires laying against anything combustible like wood, insulation, etc. EDIT: That receptacle has a backshell......shown in a pic.

Other than potential code violations, there is no real technical reason why you couldn't run 12VDC and 110VAC stuff in a common Junction box, although it's good practice to separate them to keep AC noise off of your DC lines.....60 cycle AC noise on DC lines =hum in radios, TV's etc.
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Old 01-19-2017, 08:57 AM   #14
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I've done a few of these (cleanup) projects. In Rusty I used the single 120/2 USB ones in black that I got locally at Lowes/HD but they do indeed get USB power from 120v so we rarely used them. I think BrianW's idea mounted on one side of a blank wall plate and USBs on the other is great, and Jacktupp's 4 USB even better if you don't need the 120v plug there. In my experience SMBs have plenty of 120v outlets available in a small area so they can be thinned out.

You could get everything you need almost by butchering one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JU1MLO2...I1RVCOA2GZ3BGX

I have used several of these and really like them. I take them apart and arrange them and put the different plugs in different places. My motorhome has USBs within reach of any seat or bed nowadays, but there is a consideration. The little blue LED lights do wear your batteries down. They are also bright! Punching them with an ice pick or something should solve the problem but I haven't decided to do that just yet.

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I had a USB port with a blue LED in the rear of the van...kept me up at night......that one is now mounted under the dash.
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I had a USB port with a blue LED in the rear of the van...kept me up at night......that one is now mounted under the dash.
I just smash the light with small screwdriver. Problem solved.
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Punching them with an ice pick or something should solve the problem but I haven't decided to do that just yet.

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I just smash the light with small screwdriver. Problem solved.
...I can't even bring myself to penetrating the OEM interior plastic trim anywhere in the van.........
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