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02-17-2016, 04:53 PM
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Location: Corvallis, OR
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Originally Posted by Pschitt
VivaLaVida have a transfer tanks and I haven't noticed any issue filling the main tank from the auxiliary one. The gage rises slowly during transfer and DTE seems to be recalculated. However, I also installed a manual selector valve in case of leak in one of the tanks...
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I should have qualified that... "newer gas vans". I think '08 or '09 is when they changed the fuel gauge strategy.
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02-17-2016, 04:58 PM
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Location: Corvallis, OR
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Originally Posted by odinson
Quadvan promises 100% legit gas tank install but what does that mean? Do I get some kind of paperwork? Has anyone one had the gas tank police taze their grandma?
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They increase the size of the evap system. Either larger cartridge or 2nd cartridge depending on the build.
California is probably the only state that actively looks for modifications that I know of, but any shop adding capacity without increasing the capacity of the evap system would be be violating EPA regs. Since QuadVan is a Ford QVM modifier, they have engineering backup for all the changes they make, which is why you don't get as much flexibility with builds as a non-QVM builder.
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02-17-2016, 11:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by carringb
They increase the size of the evap system. Either larger cartridge or 2nd cartridge depending on the build.
California is probably the only state that actively looks for modifications that I know of, but any shop adding capacity without increasing the capacity of the evap system would be be violating EPA regs. Since QuadVan is a Ford QVM modifier, they have engineering backup for all the changes they make, which is why you don't get as much flexibility with builds as a non-QVM builder.
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Thanks! That's very precise.
I want a system that integrates seamlessly with the stock system. Not so much that I can't hack something. I can but gas tank problems can complicate things a little more than most types.
I really need to get John on the phone. Got lotsa questions.
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02-18-2016, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: San Diego
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Ujoint is on the east coast, they offer auxiliary tanks or replacement tanks.
And yes in good ol' CA, CARB (Ca air resources board) will not let you put in an auxiliary tank in a gas engine. Diesels still have the ability to have auxiliary tanks.
I self installed an aux tank in my now gone 1994 FZJ80. Had an issue once at smog, probably in 2008, when the tech saw the second tank he threatened to fail me. But said it wasn't in the system yet.
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02-18-2016, 08:40 AM
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Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Oh so that's why it says for diesel only... I was wondering.
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02-18-2016, 09:08 AM
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Location: NY
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Originally Posted by blupaddler
Ujoint is on the east coast, they offer auxiliary tanks or replacement tanks.
And yes in good ol' CA, CARB (Ca air resources board) will not let you put in an auxiliary tank in a gas engine. Diesels still have the ability to have auxiliary tanks.
I self installed an aux tank in my now gone 1994 FZJ80. Had an issue once at smog, probably in 2008, when the tech saw the second tank he threatened to fail me. But said it wasn't in the system yet.
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Awesome. Not sure how I didn't realize how close they are. I dropped them an email.
So California are the Polar bear eaters. Funny way to love the environment. Somehow that makes sense.
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02-19-2016, 02:08 PM
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Location: NY
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*sigh* So far no call back from Quadvan or ujoint.
Check this out 40 gal version.
https://www.transferflow.com/fuel-tanks/refueling-tanks. This could work as a fallback. Build a custom basement it would fit in and manually fill one to the other. It's a gas station as cargo.
Still much rather pay for push button solution though.
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02-19-2016, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Ontario
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Sadly that refuelling rig being used as designed, while legal, will probably spew more gasoline vapors into the air than an auxiliary tank properly plumbed in to the factory fuel system.
"Talk is cheap. Whiskey costs money."
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02-19-2016, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bend, Oregon
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The literature says the Aux 40 uses the same stock filler and sender. So why does it shows a separate filler? I am confused!
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02-23-2016, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NY
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Heard back from both Sportsmobile North and Quadvan. Sportsmobile North has never upgraded or changed a gas tank and are not equipt. So it's official. If you want a CAFE/EPA gas tank and you live on the east coast you need waste 600 gallons of gasoline (32 barrels of oil) to get your tank upgraded from a 300 mile range (a few miles longer than an electric car) to a 46 gallon transferflow.
Big dumb government.
So somehow my wife OKed this insanity, so I'll be canonballing to the west coast at some point when they get the tanks in.
Do not think 'Oh I'll just do it later.' Biggest mistake on the van by far. Do not drive your van within 300 miles of Quadvan without getting your tank upgraded. If nothing else someone will pay you handsomely for a used one.
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