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Old 03-18-2014, 05:25 PM   #1
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Just spoke to the owner. Its a club wagon with a quigley setup. Van was repainted by the previous owner. The current owner owns a shirt company and put the wrap on. He doesn't think it will affect the paint, but is unsure what it will look like when taken off. I think he said it has 180k miles. Cool looking van.

He also said he used it as his toad (tow behind vehicle) behind his motorhome. Said he would put the transmission in D and put the transfer case in N. I'm not familiar with 4x4 systems, but does putting the transfer case in N disengage the driveshaft?

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Old 03-22-2014, 10:31 AM   #2
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Re: 1997 Ford E350 4X4

There is a rather long curing period between paint and wrap, like years long, if I remember correctly.

A lot of Jeep transfer cases do this, as does the Atlas. I don't know about the Ford t-case that Quigley uses. Regardless my understanding was always transmission in PARK if it's an auto, 1st if it's a manual.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:20 PM   #3
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Re: 1997 Ford E350 4X4

Yes, the Ford T-case is approve for flat towing. As Jage said, it should T-Case in N and Trans in Park.
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Re: 1997 Ford E350 4X4

I'm curious, and don't want to hijack the thread, but if the T-case is in N during a flat tow, why does it matter if an auto is in P or N? Or a manual in 1st?

If the T-case is in Neutral, it's not turning the output shaft of the tranny, is it?
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:33 AM   #5
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Re: 1997 Ford E350 4X4

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I'm curious, and don't want to hijack the thread, but if the T-case is in N during a flat tow, why does it matter if an auto is in P or N? Or a manual in 1st?

If the T-case is in Neutral, it's not turning the output shaft of the tranny, is it?
I've always wondered this too, and it's hotly debated on many forums which exact cars can be towed and how. To me, with an auto or manual 4x4 I would want the tranny in neutral as well as the transfer case, just as a backup in case the transfer popped out of neutral. It seems like you would feel it and stop to investigate before you burnt anything up.
My dad was flat towing a Civic behind a big motorhome once and it popped in to gear from neutral somehow. He said he never felt it. He glanced in his mirror and saw his Civic on fire behind him. It was old so he just towed it straight to a salvage yard IIRC.

Sorry to contribute to the hijack but it's a pretty crazy story.

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Old 03-23-2014, 11:15 AM   #6
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Re: 1997 Ford E350 4X4

Transmission should not be in neutral because its possible for there to be a little more friction in the T-case, which means it could turn the output shaft of the transmission. Transmission isn't lubricated when its not running, so its possible to cause damage. Some manual transmissions can be towed in neutral, some can't. Those that can't should be put in gear.
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its possible for there to be a little more friction in the T-case, which means it could turn the output shaft of the transmission
Specifically viscous fluid friction- so you possibly wind up slowly spinning your dry transmission. That's why I don't like the D thing... I don't know what happens in an automatic in D when you spin the output shaft.
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Ah, I didn't realize the viscous friction was enough to spin the shaft. Thanks to both of you for enlightening the ignorant.
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:38 PM   #9
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Re: 1997 Ford E350 4X4

I have always wondered this also so when I tow my rig I remove the driveshaft totally and I have a spare slip yoke that I slide in to the tailshaft to stop leak and then wire it tight...or you could just disconnect the driveshaft and wire it up in place,eliminating the need for second slip yoke...but this does cut down on the convenience of driving it at will.
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