6.0 oil cooler terminal timeframe?

[JoeH]

This is my upgrade parts list which I have accumulating for the big day. This is for my 2005 6.0 but is should mostly apply to the 2006. The updated STC fitting, HPOP screen, dummy plugs, stand pipes, turbo feed and return lines, and dipstick were parts that were re-designed and updated by Ford. They are things that should be installed during an oil cooler job as most of them can easily be accessed during this process. Most of these prices are from Tousley which has changed hands so I don't know if they are quite as cheap. There is some redundancy here depending on whether you buy a kit, etc. http://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlak ... eid=214771

-OEM Oil Cooler rebuild kit - 3C3Z-6A642-CA
-Updated Oil Cooler Screen 3CZ-6C683-AB $7
-Standpipe & Dummy Plug Kit (contains 2 of each, everything in one kit) -6E7Z-9A332-B $102.30
Updated Turbo Oil Drain Tube -6C3Z-9T515-A $21.45
Updated Turbo Oil Feed Line - 3C3Z-9T516-A $77.00
Updated fuel regulator kit with blue spring Pres. Regulator Kit -4C2Z-9T517-AA $51.70
Updated STC kit w/ turbo gasket kit (incl. IPR screen and orings) -4C3Z-9B246-F $38.50
Thermostat housing with Tstat and oring --- Part # 3C3Z-8575-AA --- Online Price $20.90
Degas Bottle (Radiator fill bottle) -- Part # 6C3Z-8A080-B --- Online Price $57.64
Degas Bottle Cap - Part # RS527 --- Online Price $5.98
Intake manifold gaskets x2 3C3Z-9439-AA
Intake manifold set 3C3Z-9433-BJ
Updated blue EGR hose - 4C4Z-8592-AA
Updated IPR screen kit (with instructions) -3C3Z9H529A
Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor (EBP) part# 5C3Z-9J460-B $129.99 at River City Diesel
ICP (Injection Control Pressure) Sensor ICP 04-07 4C3Z9F838A $114.96 at Riff Raff Diesel
HFCM OEM Water Separator Drain Upgrade Plug 6E7Z-9C082-A $16.02 at Riff Raff Diesel
Turbo Reinstall Kit (mounting and gasket parts) 3C3Z-9T514-AG $9.87 at Riff Raff Diesel

[carringb]

Originally Posted by PatO

I have a 16 shop hr estimate for every thing you mentioned plus turbo update tube, turbo seal kit, oil supply line, STC fitting kit(?), a few filters, coolant flush, fan belt etc, plus a BPD water pump ($410) for 4 hrs. labor so a total of 20 hrs @ $91/hr and a grand total with parts and tax of $3800. Then add a $1200 turbo to that. I plan to get 1 more estimate but I think that is in the ball park.

Anybody know what red antifreeze is? It is on the estimate.
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16 hours sounds like they are charging you as separate jobs for some of the labor that overlaps.

Red anti-freeze is the CAT/Cummins ELC. Or at least should be. Toyota long life is also red and I hope they aren't using that

[BogusBlake]

Originally Posted by carringb

8-10 hours is correct. But shop time doesn't equal actual time. There will be time needed for the dishwasher (intake will need ultrasonic or solvent cleaning.... Time waiting for the tech to get back to work after he finishes whatever he's doing while parts are being washed etc. Yes, it is possible to get it done in a day but only if you assign a mechanic exclusively to it, which probably won't happen at a large dealer because that interferes with overall productivity. And rushing the job won't leave time to properly clean all the parts the come out.

I had estimated 8-10 hours of my time if I did it myself. If a shop thinks it will take longer than that, my estimate for myself is definitely way too low. Is this even a job a shadetree mechanic should attempt?

[carringb]

Originally Posted by BogusBlake

Is this even a job a shadetree mechanic should attempt?

There's nothing magical about that job. Just a lot of steps because those parts are really buried.

[BogusBlake]

Originally Posted by carringb

There's nothing magical about that job. Just a lot of steps because those parts are really buried.

Any special tools I'll need besides a good torque wrench? I don't have a parts washer- is that a dealbreaker?

[PatO]

Originally Posted by carringb

16 hours sounds like they are charging you as separate jobs for some of the labor that overlaps.

Very possible, the only thing on the estimate I didn't mention was replace fuel filters. Also the full retail cost of those parts adds up very quickly. For instance the oil cooler @ $428 vs. online bargains for around $325. This diesel shop seemed very cramped, busy and chaotic. I have the luxury to spend a month and get some other estimates. Lowest price is not my main factor but I do like to believe that I'm being treated fairly and not being gouged. Enough of my hijacking of BogusBlakes thread... I think he got some good value out of posting his question and I hope he also has lots of GoJo hand cleaner! Good Luck BB, be sure to post your results.

Pat

[carringb]

Originally Posted by BogusBlake

Any special tools I'll need besides a good torque wrench? I don't have a parts washer- is that a dealbreaker?

It is important that things go back together clean. It'll run better (you'll be surprised how much carbon will be in everything) and more importantly it'll ensure a good sealing surface for O-rings, gaskets, etc and will make it easier to see all the parts you don't miss bolt or something. Any local machine shop should be willing to wash your parts for a small fee. Other than that.... there are some tools that will make reaching a bolt easier, but you can also make them (i.e. short wrenches, curved wrenches) you can make yourself if you pick up a few harbor freight donors.

[BogusBlake]

OK guys, I'm going to give it a go... $2k in labor is just too much savings potential. I figure this will also be a great way to get familiar with the mechanics of this engine.
Carringb, you've instilled me with confidence.
JoeH- Thanks for the parts list.

Anyone have a hookup for the Factory Service Manual?

[Ford_6L_E350]

Just make sure you label everything as it comes off/apart. Too easy to forget where something came from when it goes back together.

Mike

[woodbee]

Take pictures before and after you remove each piece. This has saved me many times.

Woody