Bullet proof question (again)

[86Scotty]

I read this thread with horror. I just can't imagine. I better run out RIGHT NOW and happily put $150 worth of fuel in the old 460 before I forget what I just read.

[daveb]

After this I'm done putting money into my SMB

[BogusBlake]

Originally Posted by daveb

Joe, I looked for that thread...hope you find it.

Here's what JoeH wrote in this (http://www.sportsmobileforum.com/vie...p?f=39&t=11802) thread:

Originally Posted by JoeH

This is my upgrade parts list which I have accumulating for the big day. This is for my 2005 6.0 but is should mostly apply to the 2006. The updated STC fitting, HPOP screen, dummy plugs, stand pipes, turbo feed and return lines, and dipstick were parts that were re-designed and updated by Ford. They are things that should be installed during an oil cooler job as most of them can easily be accessed during this process. Most of these prices are from Tousley which has changed hands so I don't know if they are quite as cheap. There is some redundancy here depending on whether you buy a kit, etc. http://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlak ... eid=214771

-OEM Oil Cooler rebuild kit - 3C3Z-6A642-CA
-Updated Oil Cooler Screen 3CZ-6C683-AB $7
-Standpipe & Dummy Plug Kit (contains 2 of each, everything in one kit) -6E7Z-9A332-B $102.30
Updated Turbo Oil Drain Tube -6C3Z-9T515-A $21.45
Updated Turbo Oil Feed Line - 3C3Z-9T516-A $77.00
Updated fuel regulator kit with blue spring Pres. Regulator Kit -4C2Z-9T517-AA $51.70
Updated STC kit w/ turbo gasket kit (incl. IPR screen and orings) -4C3Z-9B246-F $38.50
Thermostat housing with Tstat and oring --- Part # 3C3Z-8575-AA --- Online Price $20.90
Degas Bottle (Radiator fill bottle) -- Part # 6C3Z-8A080-B --- Online Price $57.64
Degas Bottle Cap - Part # RS527 --- Online Price $5.98
Intake manifold gaskets x2 3C3Z-9439-AA
Intake manifold set 3C3Z-9433-BJ
Updated blue EGR hose - 4C4Z-8592-AA
Updated IPR screen kit (with instructions) -3C3Z9H529A
Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor (EBP) part# 5C3Z-9J460-B $129.99 at River City Diesel
ICP (Injection Control Pressure) Sensor ICP 04-07 4C3Z9F838A $114.96 at Riff Raff Diesel
HFCM OEM Water Separator Drain Upgrade Plug 6E7Z-9C082-A $16.02 at Riff Raff Diesel
Turbo Reinstall Kit (mounting and gasket parts) 3C3Z-9T514-AG $9.87 at Riff Raff Diesel

Since you mentioned not pulling the heads, you probably won't need to bother with the fuel stand pipes and dummy plugs.

[JoeH]

yep, that's the one. I'd source the parts yourself if you can; the repair shop will most likely add 20 or 30% to those prices.

The oil cooler rebuild kit is much cheaper than buying the whole thing. I'm guessing they do it anyway, but make sure they hot tank or clean your intake manifold.

And a good custom tuner should be able to work his magic as well as adjusting the transmission shift points (firmer and crisper) and still have it make the emissions code. And you will get more bang for your buck with your FICM tune which adjusts the fueling but not timing. And you may need it anyway with a non-OEM turbo.

[rallypanam]

Originally Posted by daveb

After this I'm done putting money into my SMB

Hahahhahahaha.

[PatO]

Don't forget DaveB that less that 5000 miles after doing a stock turbo replacement with a Wicked Wheel mod + an SCT custom tune of unknown HP rating I went back to the shop with total head gasket failures and warped heads on both sides. An Engine pull, 2 "NEW" Gen 3 heads, ARP studs and gaskets was about $11,000. The point is many people state that the OEM program and a better turbo does not gain you anything and regaining the power this engine should have with a tune is a crap shoot on your head studs. A catch 22 times 2!

Side Note - some shops (like mine) won't guarantee parts the customer provides.

86Scotty - fill up a couple of Jerry cans while you are at it!

[Zeta]

Originally Posted by daveb

After this I'm done putting money into my SMB

Me too!

Z

[MKRyan]

Dave, when I had my work done earlier this year my mechanic suggested to replace the high pressure oil pump 'threaded port'. It was either the inlet or outlet of the pump. I can't find my paperwork right now or I'd get you the exact part call out. It was a $60 part and he said it was a weak point on the 6.0. You might ask your mechanic about it.
Hope this helps.

Mike

[JoeH]

Originally Posted by PatO

Don't forget DaveB that less that 5000 miles after doing a stock turbo replacement with a Wicked Wheel mod + an SCT custom tune of unknown HP rating I went back to the shop with total head gasket failures and warped heads on both sides. An Engine pull, 2 "NEW" Gen 3 heads, ARP studs and gaskets was about $11,000. The point is many people state that the OEM program and a better turbo does not gain you anything and regaining the power this engine should have with a tune is a crap shoot on your head studs. A catch 22 times 2!

Side Note - some shops (like mine) won't guarantee parts the customer provides.

86Scotty - fill up a couple of Jerry cans while you are at it!

I'm guessing there is more to this story

A mild economy tune is 65rwhp. If you had a race tune written then I can see you blowing the heads. Did the EGR cooler go first? Anyhow, I'm no expert but a non-OEM turbo is going to need some tuning to work properly. It doesn't have to have added HP. And you could have it turn the EGR off. It's worth it just for the improved shift points. IMO.

[daveb]

I'll probably copy this thread and send it to him... I do think I'll have to purchase most of the parts through them for the warranty but for the life of me I can't figure out why the turbo cost so much. 2300 bucks??? I just want to make sure they are using good parts.

Thanks so much guys.