|
04-17-2017, 10:45 AM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 4,208
|
Help: Harmonic Balancer Fell Off/Repair
I just picked up my SMB from winter storage today, and while driving home my belt was squealing terribly. After giving the engine some gas to head up a hill, I heard a "clunk" noise, and then about three minutes later another noise and saw a piece of the engine drop out the bottom of the engine compartment and roll across the road (never a good thing to see!).
After retrieving the part, and looking it up when I got home, it appears to be part of the harmonic balancer/crankshaft pulley The part number stamped is F75E-AC, see pics attached. Ford parts catalog number seems to be XL1Z6312DA, but this is showing as discontinued in the online catalogs.
I've searched online and found lots of "how to" videos for the Ford 5.4, but none for an E-van. Just eyeballing it, it doesn't look too involved to replace (just need a gear puller).
Is this a repair that is doable at home, or am I better off taking it to my mechanic? I'm comfortable doing work on my van myself (starter replacement, serpentine belt and tensioners, etc.). Are there any related preventative repairs I should do/have done while doing this (water pump, maybe)?
And, besides the part itself, would this have messed up anything else (timing or the like)?
Van is an E-250 with the 5.4 V8, 103,000 miles.
Thanks for any hints or help!
|
|
|
04-17-2017, 11:02 AM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,244
|
Wow, that's a new one on me. Since the squealing was caused by belt slippage and the damper just drives the belt, I wonder if something else siezed up, (looks like a lot of rust on the pulley) like the alternator or water pump to cause extra stress on the damper. I once started a van after winter storage and the alternator was siezed so badly that it cracked the housing once I got it started. The hardest part of replacing the damper will be getting access, you might have to remove the fan shroud, but once you can get to it, it should be a simple removal and replacement, although you might need a puller to get it off. Be sure to check all the stuff the belt turns like the alternator, tensioner, water pump, AC compressor etc, and check the belt for damage too.
__________________
Arctic Traveller
KC6TNI
2001 GTRV
Advanced 4wd
Agile Ride improvement package
|
|
|
04-17-2017, 11:10 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 4,208
|
It was squealing a bit in the fall when I parked it, but I just assumed it needed a new belt and was going to do it now in the spring. I didn't worry about the noise when I started it up today, as I was expecting it. I didn't expect the part to fall off, though! :-)
|
|
|
04-17-2017, 05:37 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: TN
Posts: 10,242
|
Well i never............
|
|
|
04-17-2017, 07:11 PM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Ontario
Posts: 1,102
|
Help: Harmonic Balancer Fell Off/Repair
Check Dorman for a cheaper part. The damper for Leggz SUV was half price.
"Talk is cheap. Whiskey costs money."
__________________
"Talk is cheap. Whiskey costs money."
|
|
|
04-17-2017, 07:49 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: TN
Posts: 299
|
I've had two cars in the past where this has happened.
The rubber vibration isolator dry rots or degrades from heat.
and eventually fails.
inspect everything that arctictraveller mentioned above .
you will need a harmonic balancer puller and a balancer installation tool.
you can borrow these from the auto parts store.
resist the urge to use the crank bolt to draw the new balancer on the crank ,
I've seen a guy break a bolt off in the crank .
also don't hammer on the balancer you can cause damage to the balancer and / or the thrust bearings.
here a link to the balancer you need Dorman 594-112 Harmonic Balancer ...you may shop around and get a better price.
(1998 ford E250 5.4 V8)
https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-594-11...ype=automotive
__________________
2007 E250 Super Duty cargo
1988 Toyota Van 4x4 5-spd
|
|
|
04-18-2017, 05:37 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 4,208
|
Thanks all! I might try this on my own. Pulled off the bottom cover last night and it doesn't look too hard to access.
The amazing thing is that even though the pulley came off, the belt stayed on and is still under tension and works! Crazy.
|
|
|
04-24-2017, 01:13 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 4,208
|
Took care of this over the weekend. More involved than I had hoped, but much of that was the learning curve. Not that I hope to ever do this again, but I'm sure next time will be much easier!
Replaced the water pump, thermostat, antifreeze, and upper hose as preventative maintenance while I was at it. Very thankful for the free Autozone specialty loaner tools too! Below is a pic of the old balancer/pully, clearly showing the delamination between the layers.
|
|
|
04-24-2017, 03:23 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Western North Carolina
Posts: 1,258
|
I've yet to see this...
Glad you were able fix it.
__________________
Rob.
Current:
2001 E350 PSD w/ a bunch of stuff.
And had three other E350s...
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|