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Old 04-22-2014, 10:14 AM   #1
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Transmission Replacement Questions

Looks like I need a new transmission. 4R100 leaking like a sieve, not shifting perfectly.

So I got some options:

1. Go with new Ford unit
2. Looks like maybe Ford also makes a Heavy Duty 4R100.. Not sure what the price difference is.
3. Rebuild the one I have.

Thoughts? Best option? Ford is more expensive but also comes with 3 year warranty. What about something different?

Also, while I'm in there should I add a fancy Banks torque converter or anything (not that I want to spend more money.. but if it makes sense).

Thoughts?
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:44 AM   #2
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Re: Transmission Replacement Questions

John Woods in SoCal, or BTS (Brian's Truck Shop) in Arkansas. Best 4R100 builders out there, and both will ship.

http://www.jwtt.com/

http://www.brianstruckshop.com/


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Old 04-22-2014, 11:18 AM   #3
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John Woods in SoCal, or BTS (Brian's Truck Shop) in Arkansas. Best 4R100 builders out there, and both will ship.

http://www.jwtt.com/

http://www.brianstruckshop.com/


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Yes, I was checking them out, but both quite a bit more money.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:25 AM   #4
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John Woods in SoCal, or BTS (Brian's Truck Shop) in Arkansas. Best 4R100 builders out there, and both will ship.

http://www.jwtt.com/

http://www.brianstruckshop.com/

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D'oh.

John Wood on vacation for another week, that's not going to work!

BTS not answering phone. Hopefully they call back quickly!
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:53 AM   #5
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Re: Transmission Replacement Questions

That's too bad. I take it you're looking to get things done ASAP.

When I was first shopping for an Excursion, I called and talked to John Wood and asked lots of questions. John was very helpful.

Brian (of BTS) can be hard to get hold of, but is also very helpful. I've bugged him more than once since the Excursion I ended up buying had one of his transmission in it (the Excursion actually used to be owned by him).

Both are expensive transmissoins, but both have stellar reputations. Whether the price difference is worth it to you or not is subjective (how long do you plan on keeping the rig, will you tow,...).


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[EDIT: not sure if it will fit in a van, but I had my 7.3L transmission cooler swapped for a 6.0L transmission cooler. Much larger.]
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:02 PM   #6
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That's too bad. I take it you're looking to get things done ASAP.

When I was first shopping for an Excursion, I called and talked to John Wood and asked lots of questions. John was very helpful.

Brian (of BTS) can be hard to get hold of, but is also very helpful. I've bugged him more than once since the Excursion I ended up buying had one of his transmission in it (the Excursion actually used to be owned by him).

Both are expensive transmissoins, but both have stellar reputations. Whether the price difference is worth it to you or not is subjective (how long do you plan on keeping the rig, will you tow,...).


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[EDIT: not sure if it will fit in a van, but I had my 7.3L transmission cooler swapped for a 6.0L transmission cooler. Much larger.]
Yes, I'd like to get it done. It's a pretty steady leak/gusher.

That subjective bit is the hard part.. my old van had 194k with no transmission issues, worked great. New one not so much.

And if I do new Ford one, definitely can't swap coolers.. they require new stock cooler to be installed at the same time or new 3 year warranty is void.

Hmmm. Decisions decisions.
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Re: Transmission Replacement Questions

Ditto on what Bronco Hauler said. Since I am in CA I will go to JW when my 4R100 goes out, if I don't then convert to a ZF6.

Don't let the title of this thread throw you. Instead read it for what happens when you don't go to John Woods or to Brian's Truck Stop. This guy needed his truck fast for work:

http://powerstrokenation.com/forums/sho ... p?t=338978

Tugly went with the HD4R100 and seems to be happy. Maybe pm him?

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/membe ... 100502.png

Here is the HD4R100 applications chart from Mueckster over at ford-trucks.com:

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Talked to BTS.

$5200 including shipping.

And they're booked through mid-July. I can't wait that long, so they're out.
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:13 PM   #9
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For lack of a better option, I went with a stock swap. Probably regret it down the road, cause the Wood or BTS ones sound way better... but I don't have weeks or months to wait to get it fixed.

Interestingly two different Ford dealers in the area were completely clueless as to the HD version. One denied that Ford even had such a thing, even as I pointed out that their website said they did. And the other acknowledged that there was one, but had no clue what differences it might or might not have.

Oh well. If nothing else I get a 3 year warranty out of this one. I just hope next time it blows up I don't need the van for a month or so. As opposed to the start of summer.
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Re: Transmission Replacement Questions

Drive the crap out of it asap!

On my 1993 Bronco, which I bought new (along with the Ford 100K ext. warranty) the dealer replaced the E40D at 60K (just after the normal warranty period expired) and then replaced that E40D at 75K still under the 100K ext. warranty. But the third E40D (orig, first replacement, second replacement) was still doing fine when I sold the Bronco at approx. 200K miles.
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