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Old 11-30-2019, 10:06 PM   #1
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Did this guy pry the door open?

I'm just going to leave this here without comment.

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/11/2...X6p9F-MQJMYUEg
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:02 AM   #2
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Not going to comment on the story, but was anyone else distracted by why Fur Elise from Tetris was playing in the background?
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I'm slightly confused or perplexed by your rhetorical title but I won't let that alone stop me from making a comment........H-U-G-E assumptions following.......

I'm assuming the van was unlocked even though it was most likely highly evident people were inside---probably why the robber approached, thinking the occupants wouldn't resist him. An unlocked door is NOT an invitation no de facto permission for unwanted or unauthorized other people to enter a vehicle or other place. I don't believe a statue exists saying unencumbered access to another's property or residence/vehicle forbids anyone from protecting said property or residence/vehicle.

In fact I can't think of a more complete demonstration or example of the castle doctrine than this story.

Someone opening one of my doors locked or not and dares cross the threshold runs an extremely high risk of defensive action being immediately brought to bear with full intention to stop the intrusion completely.

This linked story to my mind is simply one for the good guy who took action to defend his family and property, zero for the bad guys--case closed.

Sorry if I took the wrong path here AT---just my reaction from having dealt with this sort of thing my own self.
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[QUOTE=JWA;264029]I'm slightly confused or perplexed by your rhetorical title but I won't let that alone stop me from making a comment........H-U-G-E assumptions following.QUOTE]

No disagreement what so ever with any of your comment. The title only reflects MY desire to avoid getting flamed on what could be a controversial subject, but mostly my curiosity about how much warning the occupant had that an intruder was on his way in.
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:38 PM   #5
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The only person I feel bad for is the guy who had to kill someone in order to defend his family. A terrible thing to have to do, but I would have done the same.




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Old 12-03-2019, 05:57 PM   #6
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I'm slightly confused or perplexed by your rhetorical title but I won't let that alone stop me from making a comment........H-U-G-E assumptions following.QUOTE]

No disagreement what so ever with any of your comment. The title only reflects MY desire to avoid getting flamed on what could be a controversial subject, but mostly my curiosity about how much warning the occupant had that an intruder was on his way in.
No flames from me----that's a great question. I fully agree with BroncoHauler that its tough defending yourself/family to that degree but when its me or them---sorry 'bout their bad luck. In another post I shared I've been in that situation but have no regrets about defending myself.

Another huge assumption here---if I read the article correctly the vehicle occupant was basically living in the van which may have put him on a high alert state-of-mind, not really sleeping knowing he was in a risky situation, that an intruder may very well try to enter, the "sleeping with one eye open" thing. That being the case someone yanking an unlocked vehicle door open would trigger a defensive posture that included bringing a weapon to bear.

We're living in times when desperate down-on-their-luck people are more and more often assaulting what they believe to be unarmed and unprepared people to rob them. On a very slight uptick is the number of people who ARE prepared and more than willing to defend what's their's to whatever end. Such a fact won't really deter the motivated crook but when they meet their end its not that sad, not to me anyway. Freddie Mercury sang "another one bites the dust"......so better a bad guy with bad intentions rather than a hard working honest law abiding citizen.
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