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Old 09-01-2009, 10:26 AM   #51
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Re: Empty SMB weighs same as GVWR

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So I have been researching the drawbacks of having a vehicle over 10,000lb GVWR. The only drawback I could come up with is the towing. Can anyone else tell me what other drawbacks there would be. There are no license retrictions applied, as the SMB is usually changed to a Motorhome/ recreactional vehicle.
The drawbacks of being over 10,000# (but within GVWR ratings) that I know of are:

- The earlier mentioned issue with AAA towing limitations. Probably applies to any flatbed tow truck.

- I have seen weigh stations that require ALL VEHICLES OVER 10,000# MUST WEIGH. This depends on how willing you are to drive on by and see if they will hunt you down.

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Old 09-01-2009, 11:24 AM   #52
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Re: Empty SMB weighs same as GVWR

True enough but few of the state have invested in the weight classification equipment that allows them to know that you are over 10K either before or after you pass the station. I used to own a company that invented and made this technology, which we successfully sold all over the world except the US. Here it is perceived as a snooping/privacy issue and where it was installed it had to be removed. It consisted of rubber sheets with sensors between them that when compressed by the weight of the wheels crossing at given intervals could give the operator or recorder an instant classification of axle and vehicle gross weight.

With that said it was not accurate enough to distinguish at speed the difference between say 9750#s and say 10750. And this is not really the problem with SMB vehicles. Its the guys who are driving 10000# vehicles with 12000 or more, which is fairly unlikely to happen with an SMB.
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:32 PM   #53
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Re: Empty SMB weighs same as GVWR

Yes AAA will not tow if you are using their regular membership. Since my SMB is considered a MH/ RV I upgraded to the RV tow membership. Most SMB would have to have the RV package to get towed by AAA.

You do not have to stop at those scales. RV's are exempt as they are not commercial/ trucks. I will let them run me down and correct me if some state is different.
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:43 PM   #54
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You might want to wiegh your rig sailquik. Things add up in a hurry. I was a little surprised on mine. I'm still under gross, but not by much.
Well, I drove by a scale today and the curiosity got the better of me (and cost me $9). My gross weight is 8640#, 860# below the GVWR. This was full of windsurfing gear, 3 windsurf boards inside +2 stand-up paddle boards on the roof, full water and fuel, full fridge and with two people and a long haired Chihuahua on board.

So I guess next time I go camping I can take my teenagers along, or I can go easy on myself and just buy more windsurfing gear.

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:06 PM   #55
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Re: Empty SMB weighs same as GVWR

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Well, I drove by a scale today and the curiosity got the better of me (and cost me $9). My gross weight is 8640#, 860# below the GVWR. This was full of windsurfing gear, 3 windsurf boards inside +2 stand-up paddle boards on the roof, full water and fuel, full fridge and with two people and a long haired Chihuahua on board.

So I guess next time I go camping I can take my teenagers along, or I can go easy on myself and just buy more windsurfing gear.
So Sailquik, how does your SMB's actual (loaded) weight compare to your door jamb sticker?


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Old 09-07-2009, 05:38 PM   #56
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So Sailquik, how does your SMB's actual (loaded) weight compare to your door jamb sticker?
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:58 PM   #57
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A SMB is not a singularity like a bridge spanning a specific body of water. There isnít a federal inspector looking each and every part of the vehicle. A boat or especially a plane is a different story; failure to load these correctly could likely cause a major incident. But a slightly overloaded vehicle? What about the 72VW van my buddy had that could be overloaded? We loaded that sucker down and went camping all the time and it was a stock vehicle. People sue for any reason they can think of nowadays if they believe they can make it stick. If there was a fatality concerning any vehicle Iím sure someoneís nose is gonna be where it shouldnít, but I do wonder if a person would try to sue on such flimsy evidence of thinking your rig is a thousand pounds over weight. These are reasons for tort reform IMO. Someone will have to prove that the incident happened because of the extra weight. If you grossly over load the van to a point that something literally breaks due to too much weight thatís a different story. How could a lawyer prove that a van thatís 2000 pound overloaded (per the door sticker) failed to stop due to weight when you can pull a heavy trailer that has no brakes behind a van that poses more of a problem in stopping the vehicle? OK yeah they probably canÖ.I do believe in the deep pocket rule. If you got the bucks youíre a target. I know I have the right to remain silent and the door sticker can and will be used against me in a court of law, but I hope itís not such a big deal.

I think of it this way:
My vehicle is a redesigned van, not a stock van. It has some stronger components in the suspension not to mention that Iíve been proactive with adding a brake upgrade and going from D rated tires to E rated tires. The vehicle is not something from the Grapes Of Wrath flying down the road at 80 MPH.

Ö..But if I do get in a jam will you guys come to my defense and send the court E-Mails to help me out? Just leave out the part about the fact I like Beer. I knew I shouldnít have installed those twin keg-er-ators.
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Daveb, I hope those twin kegerators are E rated, unless you are drinking light beer, of course.
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Re: Empty SMB weighs same as GVWR

I weighed mine--10,000# packed but with no people.

Salem Kroger is going to apply to somewhere with my vin #for a new weight limit and will attach it to my vehicle next time I am there. He can do that since he did my 4X4

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