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Old 04-13-2008, 10:05 PM   #1
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How much does your van weigh?

Respond with:
Actual Scale weight
Front, Rear, and Corner weight (if you have it)
EB or RB
bumper style
package ("50")
anything that would affect the weight (e.g. I have 2 4d AGMs)
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:17 PM   #2
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Damn, it just crushed my bathroom scale!!

How do you weigh one of these beasts?
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:01 AM   #3
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Jeffrey, lots of truck stops have scales as well as refuse transfer stations. Here in SB you can get your SMB weight at Marborg, about 2 blocks from your shop. Best part about marborg is that it's free. Bad part is they will only weigh the entire car, not corners etc. I tried and they got a little grumpy. Not with my SMB. Jage, should be compare dry or wet weight? I'll get my van weight this week.
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List the weight you have, wet or dry (I'm assuming that's loaded or empty). This is just for archival / informational purposes, no serious intentions.
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:17 PM   #5
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Re: How much does your van weigh?

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List the weight you have, wet or dry (I'm assuming that's loaded or empty). This is just for archival / informational purposes, no serious intentions.
Actually, this would be quite useful to would-be buyers in understanding how the many options affect weight. Weight influences handling, component stress and fuel economy among other things. It is so easy to add one more cool--I mean essential--accessory but these add up quickly in both price and weight. Is there a list of options (engines, bumpers, wheels, tops, appliances, cabinets, awnings, etc.) with individual weights?
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:35 PM   #6
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Here Goes,

I have a friend with a tire business and he has a scale that can weigh each wheel. We had to back it in for the rears but the results are the same.

Including 220lb Driver. Full Fuel
Full Water No other items stored.

2007 RB-50
6.0 PSD
Propane Furnace
Propane Water Heater
Starcool
Aluminess Bumbers Front and Rear
Power Penthouse
Std Fridge
Loincoin
Complete Dynamat
Rear Shower
Xl Storage
AGM 4D Battery
Solar Prewire
Walker Evans Beadlock 17" rims (5)
Nitto 325 70x17 Terra Grapplers (5)
Custom Stereo ( Oh my God I bought my first 2 new cars for less) True !

Total 9437 lbs.

LF 2254 RF 2272

LR 2550 RR 2362

I will weigh it again sometime when it is Full of Stuff.

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Old 04-24-2008, 10:47 PM   #7
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Re: How much does your van weigh?

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Thanks. According to the Sportsmobile website the E-350 has a GVWR of 9500 lbs, so you are near capacity without any passengers or gear. Do you know if your GVWR is greater?
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:22 AM   #8
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Re: How much does your van weigh?

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Thanks. According to the Sportsmobile website the E-350 has a GVWR of 9500 lbs, so you are near capacity without any passengers or gear. Do you know if your GVWR is greater?
One of the better posts on the SMB owners group was by Jack Burgess. Although I am not sure if it needs to be updated (Chime in Jack) it was confirmed by SMB when I asked some time back. I used this info to determine how much more "heavy duty" I wanted to go with the drive train. Not sure if this fully answers your concern. The post below is from the SMB owners group. Although I can't confirm this, the infomation it seems correct. Check the SMB owners archives for more info.

This is from the SMB owners group archives:
This question has come up before (maybe we should have an FAQ <g>). Here is
what we posted some time ago [Note...since this post, we have added solar
panels too]:

Without any passengers but packed for a weekend trip (4CF refrigerator full,
etc.), both gas tanks full, LP nearly full, water full, etc. our van weighs
9760 lbs......360 lbs over the GVWR! Add two passengers and we are about
10,000 lbs or about 600 lbs over..
(We have a 2000 Ford EB V-10 pop-top with 4WD, winch, steel bumpers, water
heater, inverter, etc.; except for the heavier diesel engine and solar
panels, we are about as heavy as you can get.)
Last July (after an on-line discussion of GVWR), I asked a friend who is the
technical editor for both Motor Home and Trailer Life magazines about these
issues. Here is his response...

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This is the kind of question we hear all the time. In your case, you aren't
overloaded enough to seriously worry. This isn't a Monty Python movie where
one pound over GVWR gets added to a rig and it bursts into flames. You're
right about how Sportsmobile calculates its weights, in that no matter how
responsible the manufacturer is, they all tend to fudge when it comes to the
weight question.

Truck manufacturers don't add in a "safety factor" per se, in that they
establish a GVWR and figure people will exceed it by XX amount, so they cut
it back for safety's sake. The GVWR is based on all the load or
power-bearing capacities of the parts, including brakes, steering, bearings,
transmission, engine cooling ability, springs -- all these details -- and
it's usually the weak link in the chain that establishes the GVWR. In many
cases, the GVWR is based on adding up both front and rear axle GAWRs (gross
axle weight rating), and the GAWR is based on tire capacity. A typical E
range tire is rated at 3,042 lbs capacity at XX pressure, so two tires
equals 6,084 lbs capacity, and that's a very common axle rating on 3/4 and
1-ton vehicles. Check your doorjamb sticker for your GAWR figures.

GVWR is also established based on durability, or service life, and warranty
work. For example, Ford could give it a higher GVWR, but that could mean 10%
more warranty work in the first three years and that's a big $$$$$ for
Ford..
They strike a balance between usability, competition with the other brands,
and cost.
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So, from his response, it seems to me that tires are the biggest thing to
keep in mind. We are running BF Goodrich tires (285-75-R16) which are rated
way beyond our total weight. Other than that, I don't worry about total
weight anymore.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:42 AM   #9
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Re: How much does your van weigh?

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...We are running BF Goodrich tires (285-75-R16) which are rated way beyond our total weight. Other than that, I don't worry about total weight anymore.
To each his own. Weight ratings are somewhat subjective but are also determined for real reasons which you noted. I prefer to stay well under the maximum primarily for improved safety, performance and economy. A truck near its rated maximum is harder to get moving and to stop, and can be severely limited for towing. The trick is often to know what things actually weigh.
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:33 AM   #10
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I totally agree. Weight is an important factor and why I upgraded many things on my SMB. I feel that even though I did an upgrade to my brake system due to this, I’m sure there is still room for improvement. But aspects such as the frame specifications and such, is off limits to my knowledge. I will leave that for the true designers and won't comment on the engineered stuff. All I can look at is what others experience in the field and there are several owners running vehicles in the 11,000 lb range like myself with no problems as of date. I guess “as of date” will be the determining factor.
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