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Old 07-08-2015, 08:35 PM   #1
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Stiction Fiction

I've had cold running problems from sticking 6.0 injectors for a year or so. I tried all of the snake oil additives the aftermarket sells: Optilube, Rev-X, Hot Shot, Archoil and some German crap. Bupkis. Actually hundreds of dollars less than bupkis. So I sprang for factory injectors. $3800 worth. The good news is it runs perfectly, much better than before even when warmed up. Super smooth, excellent low-end and clearly more power. Bad news is someone else had to touch my van besides me. Courtesy of Courtesy Ford:

That's the oil filler tube that plugs into the right valve cover. The mechanic broke it and expected silicone to hold it in place. $11.09 is what the new part cost me, but at least it wasn't something that would destroy the engine by letting in tons of dirt. Wait, it is something that would destroy the engine. Luckily the intercooler hose popped off, again, so I noticed the filler tube was no longer connected either.

Earlier this year, in preparation for my new injectors, I added an Airdog II fuel pump and a regulated return system.
Once I realized I had to turn the fuel pressure regulator on the pump itself all the way up, the regulated return system maintains an excellent 70 psi, or close to it. I keep the regulator wrapped thoroughly with heat wrap to protect it (not shown). I also added a fuel pressure gauge to my Edge CTS2.

I now have plenty of gauges to obsess over. I also added an ambient temperature sensor, so, like in a modern car, I know how hot it is outside.

If you have sticking injectors, just replace them. They told me three of mine were bad, and I believe them.

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Old 07-08-2015, 08:47 PM   #2
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Re: Stiction Fiction

What's a factory injector? My understanding is the best you can do is one that has been rebuilt. Even the OEM stockers from Ford are remans. Alliant has a good rep but from everything I've read unless you are going with bigger nozzles it's best to stick with OEM.

That oil filler tube is a joke. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. WTF?
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Re: Stiction Fiction

Factory=OEM reman IMO.

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Factory=OEM reman IMO.

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You can get them for $200 ea so I presume $3800 includes labor? Not trying to be a pr*ck, just curious if something is better out there than what I was able to source.
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Re: Stiction Fiction

Moonlight Diesel in Logan, UT quoted me $3300 w/Alliant injectors. I thought a Ford warranty might come in handy in my travels, so I went with that. Both were surprised, however, that I wanted all eight done. I guess most people just fix the baduns. In my case it was 1,2 and 7, so both valve covers and oil rails would have to be removed.

I had them do stand pipes and dummy plugs too.

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Old 07-08-2015, 09:21 PM   #6
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Re: Stiction Fiction

Did you bust them on the busted oil filler tube, or did you only notice afterwards, in which case I'm sure it was someone else who busted that tube.
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You can get them for $200 ea.
Where in the world did you find factory remans for $200?!? That's less than my shop cost was. A factory injector that was reman'd is not the same as a factory reman (if that makes sense).
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You can get them for $200 ea.
Where in the world did you find factory remans for $200?!? That's less than my shop cost was. A factory injector that was reman'd is not the same as a factory reman (if that makes sense).
This is my usual Ford place for parts. They have injectors for $200 with a refundable $180 core charge.
http://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlak ... charge/4c3

My local shop sourced them for $264 including freight.
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Here's another source for OEM injectors. $195 ea. https://6.0injectors.com/product/oem-fo ... or-single/

$1500 for a set of 8.
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New factory injectors are better than older remanufactured ones. The new design injectors have a relief cut into the spool so the spool doesn't get stuck to the seat (like a wet glass getting stuck to the table). The machined relief allows a free flow of oil and prevents the stiction. The snake-oil remedies mostly act to better lubricate the very small spool so it moves easier. The 6.0 shop in Alaska (Different Strokes of Alaska) had a cutaway valve so you could see the machined relief and how it can work.

Having said that, I know that Opti-Lube, 2 stroke oil and other remedies can make your 6.0 much quieter.

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