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Old 10-30-2015, 10:31 AM   #1
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Agile or Ujoint

I just picked up a used 2001 E250 5.4 2WD RB30 Sportsmobile. My goal in the next year is to get a 4x4 conversion and something like a 4" on 33 lift underneath it. Ive been reading up a lot recently on conversions such as Ujoint and a friend has just installed the 6" on 35's which turned out great and hes really happy with it. Ive also been hearing a lot of good things about Agile Offroad.

I am located in Los Angeles. I usually camp locally with dirtbike on hitch carrier in Santa Barbara, Big Bear, Mojave, Joshua Tree with a longer 2 week road trip every year or so. Im more interested in having 4wd so i dont get stuck rather than attempting king of the hammers and getting super technical. I really want a good suspension so i can move at a brisk pace along those damn desert washboards and rough fire roads that practically rattled my straight axel pathfinder 76 chevy to pieces. I also use my van as a daily driver so that plays a big role in how it handles.

I dont know much about suspension and 4x4, so any advice or suggestions from people who've experienced these kits or know a lot about them would be great. Pros n COns?

also Ujoint pricing is pretty transparent on their website, are there any available prices for Agile offroad?

Thanks guys, dont forget to post pics of your rigs if you've got em
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Old 10-30-2015, 11:10 AM   #2
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Re: Agile or Ujoint

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I really want a good suspension so i can move at a brisk pace along those damn desert washboards and rough fire roads that practically rattled my straight axel pathfinder 76 chevy to pieces.
Based on this statement, I would say Agile with the TTB front end. I don't have any personal experience with their kit, but there are some videos that Ramsey (Agile) has posted where he's hauling ass through some whooped out roads and the suspension is doing its thing. They're also located in El Cajon, so pretty easy for you to get to.

The UJOR kit looks pretty awesome as well and I almost pulled the trigger on their kit this year. In the end, I just didn't have the funds to complete the kit, so I just went with a Camburg lift. The DIY aspect is very attractive with the UJOR kit.

***EDIT*** found the link... https://youtu.be/CtAsrs29seU
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Old 10-30-2015, 11:11 AM   #3
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My 4x4 Quigley is no better over washboard. Nice and slow is the only way to go if you want to avoid rattles.
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I really want a good suspension so i can move at a brisk pace along those damn desert washboards and rough fire roads that practically rattled my straight axel pathfinder 76 chevy to pieces.
Based on this statement, I would say Agile with the TTB front end.
X2!

However if they don't have the shop back up and running full speed in time to meet your time-frame, a QuadVan would be the next best ride.
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Old 10-30-2015, 09:20 PM   #5
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Re: Agile or Ujoint

We've never slowed down on the 4x4 conversions... we have been turning out a few 4x4 conversions every month and have several in the queue.

We did greatly reduce the sale and shipping of our Quigley RIP Kits for several reasons.

I would recommend that you get your friend to let you drive his Ujoint conversion, on and off the road, so you have a feel for that system. Then I would suggest that you take the time to test drive one of our conversions. That will give you an idea of which will best suit your needs as they are very different.

You are looking at a substantial investment, do your homework.

I would be glad to send you a estimate if you wish and arrange for a test drive.

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X2!

However if they don't have the shop back up and running full speed in time to meet your time-frame, a QuadVan would be the next best ride.
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I would recommend that you get your friend to let you drive his Ujoint conversion, on and off the road, so you have a feel for that system. Then I would suggest that you take the time to test drive one of our conversions. That will give you an idea of which will best suit your needs as they are very different.

You are looking at a substantial investment, do your homework.

I would be glad to send you a estimate if you wish and arrange for a test drive.
This is exactly what i'll do! and the best advice. Id love to come down for a test drive and learn about your system in person. If you wouldn't mind PM'ing or emailing me a rough estimate too that would be excellent. Thanks!

Thanks everyone for your opinions, still looking forward to hearing other users opinions or general pros / cons
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Re: Agile or Ujoint

I think both do great work while the Concept is very different.

I chose

http://www.quadvan.com

for a number of reasons and i am very pleased with Johns work.
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Yea, 2 very different suspensions between us. Drive em both and see what suits you better!
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Old 10-31-2015, 04:07 PM   #9
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I have a Quigley setup and I'm happy with it. I think they are all good. Quadvan, Quigley, Salt Lake, Canada all do a decent job of converting. But there's no comparison right now to the work by Chris at Ujoint. No one else is developing in the same innovative way. Most others are repeating what they have done for a long time. Nothing wrong with that. But Chris is rocking the process.
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... But there's no comparison right now to the work by Chris at Ujoint. No one else is developing in the same innovative way. Most others are repeating what they have done for a long time. Nothing wrong with that. But Chris is rocking the process.
I don't mean to make waves here but I don't find anything innovative about leaf springs and solid axles front and rear. That's pretty old school technology...
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