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12-13-2011, 06:51 AM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
There is still a bumpstop but it appears to be about half the size of the one in jessenej's pic. There is no longer anything for the bumpstop to contact other than the top of the axle. I also don't anticipate compressing the rear that much, but it's always what I don't anticipate that ends up getting me. I searched a little, but does someone have a link for a recommended replacement bumpstop?
Steve in L.A.
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12-13-2011, 08:19 AM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
Where I was going with this (I have Bilsteins too) is how much can they be compressed beyond where the prior bumpstop was?
I believe the old bumpstop limited travel to essentially where the stock axle would have been, I think, maybe.
Surely Deavers could look up the shocks and supply a solution as part of the spring package, especially after taking out the old stop.....
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12-13-2011, 10:06 AM
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Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
Steve,
You haven't held back yet. Why start now?
http://www.kingshocks.com/category/products/bumpstops/
Eric
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12-13-2011, 10:20 AM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
Oooo! Shiny things! Quick, where's my credit card?
Steve in L.A.
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12-13-2011, 12:13 PM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
Quote:
Originally Posted by ANZAC
Where I was going with this (I have Bilsteins too) is how much can they be compressed beyond where the prior bumpstop was?
I believe the old bumpstop limited travel to essentially where the stock axle would have been, I think, maybe.
Surely Deavers could look up the shocks and supply a solution as part of the spring package, especially after taking out the old stop.....
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I got my Deavers many years ago now. Probably one of the first for our vans. I love 'em, but as is mentioned in another post here, I was unhappy about two things that they didn't do. One, that they didn't change the shock mounts on the front when they added Bilsteins. They left in the SMB mounts and bump stops and there was very little down travel available after the Deavers were installed. The second problem was that they didn't install any bump stop on the rear when the stock Ford blocks/bump stops were removed. The stock rubber stop was left in place, but there was nothing for it to contact. The shock was the limiting factor. I called them on it and was told they were working on coming up with something. I ended up rebuilding my front mount and stop and adding a stop on the rear and sent them photos on what I did. I guess they decided that they are just a spring shop, not a suspension rebuilder. Other then these two items, great work by them and still love the springs. I put my rig thru it's paces and wanted/needed the additional articulation in the front and was worried about the rear shocks as the indicator o-ring on the shock was always jammed to the top indicating the shock was bottoming out. My advice, at least add a bump stop on the rear. I guess it depends on how you use your rig, but why have it and not use it the way it was intended?
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12-13-2011, 12:31 PM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
It shouldn't be hard to do the math. Measure eye to eye on the shock at rest, find out the minimum compressed height for that shock part number, subtract and that tells you how much travel is left. If the shock is tilted, it will move less than if vertical (simple trig will give you the answer).
Measure the gap between the bump stop and the axle. If the gap is larger than the remaining travel, you need to add a bump stop, plus maybe a bit of an allowance.
Of course you also need to check you haven't created a problem with extending the shocks too far, in which case you'd need a different shock....
For fun I'm going to measure my current setup and see whether I can get more travel with the existing shocks, assuming I replace the springs.
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12-13-2011, 01:22 PM
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Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
Quote:
Originally Posted by ANZAC
Of course you also need to check you haven't created a problem with extending the shocks too far, in which case you'd need a different shock....
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Or, limit straps.
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12-18-2011, 08:12 PM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
Not sure about the rear, but Deaver completely changed the shock mounts up front on mine. I told Jeff I planned to re-install the rear air bags. I just don't want it to hinder the ride I have now when aired down. What do you guys think? If I put the bags back is it gonna limit travel and make it stiffer even if there is only a few pounds in them?
Being able to lift the rig a few extra inches is a nice advantage in some cases.
Deaver had to send me an extra leaf cause the rear was a little heavier than they expected. That fixed the stance and it rides well now.
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12-18-2011, 09:54 PM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
So has anyone mail ordered Deavers and installed themselves?
What adjusting/measuring/tuning do they do at the shop?
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12-18-2011, 10:17 PM
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Re: Another Satisfied Deaver Spring Customer
Have a idea on the bump stops.
1/4 inch plate cut and drilled to match the top of the spring perch with a arm offset to match the old bump stop location?
Use the top of the U bolts to bolt in place.
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