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03-10-2010, 10:06 AM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
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Originally Posted by LeadDoggy
You got Advance Trac RSC?
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One of the guys asked me that too. I don't think I have it. There would be a button on my dash right?
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03-10-2010, 10:30 AM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
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Originally Posted by floorguy_724
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Originally Posted by LeadDoggy
You got Advance Trac RSC?
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One of the guys asked me that too. I don't think I have it. There would be a button on my dash right?
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Correct and there would be sign on rear left door.
I believe that it is standard on passerger van and not usually on cargo.
Both Action Van and J Flame know that Advance Trac RSC is a problem on their lifts and both know me as for I have talked with them about the possible cures.
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03-10-2010, 10:40 AM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
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Originally Posted by LeadDoggy
floorguy_724 wrote:LeadDoggy wrote:You got Advance Trac RSC?
One of the guys asked me that too. I don't think I have it. There would be a button on my dash right?
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Correct and there would be sign on rear left door.
I believe that it is standard on passerger van and not usually on cargo.
Both Action Van and J Flame know that Advance Trac RSC is a problem on their lifts and both know me as for I have talked with them about the possible cures.
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Thanks Lead! How is the ride on the AV? Your van looks awesome and I am doing for looks and will go the 4x4 route in a few years.
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03-10-2010, 12:29 PM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
So you just push the button to disable the Advance Trac and then everything works fine?
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03-10-2010, 01:33 PM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
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Originally Posted by LeadDoggy
Camburg is a NO for me also because of the bending thing.
Both Action Van and J-Flame make good products.
I have Action Van on my 2007 E350. No problems or complaints.
If I would have know about J Flame, I would have gone with them. Their stuff just looks better.
Both kits keep proper geometry and use the same pitnam arm.
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I looked at the pics and Action van i-beams didn't look bent, but the kit says it comes with new I-breams so I ASSumed they were modified. Sorry for any confusion if I caused any.
As for the RSC, Ford says it will work it the center of gravity of the van is below 39.2". I think the loading and interior layout can help keep the cG down below that point, even with the lift (depending on how high). I suspect widening the wheel track (adapters or high-backspace wheels) would also keep it from kicking in too early.
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03-10-2010, 01:46 PM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
Pushing it once doesn't do what you think... Here's what I've found...
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push RSC button and release: braking traction control mode
push and HOLD RSC button for at least 5 seconds: everything off. The "off" light in the button will flash. It might engage if a very high threshold is reached, but luckily I've never had that occur.
4X4 auto and high: does nothing; uses whatever setting the button is in
4X4 low: automatically goes into traction only mode. You can shut this off by holding the button as explained above.
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03-10-2010, 02:00 PM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
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Originally Posted by carringb
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Originally Posted by LeadDoggy
Camburg is a NO for me also because of the bending thing.
Both Action Van and J-Flame make good products.
I have Action Van on my 2007 E350. No problems or complaints.
If I would have know about J Flame, I would have gone with them. Their stuff just looks better.
Both kits keep proper geometry and use the same pitnam arm.
Where you from?
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I looked at the pics and Action van i-beams didn't look bent, but the kit says it comes with new I-breams so I ASSumed they were modified. Sorry for any confusion if I caused any.
As for the RSC, Ford says it will work it the center of gravity of the van is below 39.2". I think the loading and interior layout can help keep the cG down below that point, even with the lift (depending on how high). I suspect widening the wheel track (adapters or high-backspace wheels) would also keep it from kicking in too early.
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Kit comes with radius arms, not I beams. You have to return your stock radius arms because of a core charge.
As for the problems, it is in the turning ratio. The drop pitnam arm is not the same lenght from hole to hole on a verticle. There is a sensor attached to the steering wheel and once you get past 1/4 turn and above 20 mph the Advance starts kicking in.
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03-10-2010, 02:06 PM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
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Originally Posted by bsdctx
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Originally Posted by LeadDoggy
You got Advance Trac RSC?
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I read a post of your on another forum regarding your problems with lifting your van and the Advance Trac RSC. What solution did you come up with? Would you recommend finding a van without the A T RSC?
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Presently looking for another drop pitnam arm which has the right lenght. Also thinking about modifying the steering wheel sensor activating device. There is a round unit with holes on the steering shaft that the sensor reads. I believe that it counts the hole when you turn the wheel. Thinking I need to cover a hole or two.
At this time, being that I have not yet found a solution, I would not over look a van with Advance Trac RSC.
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03-10-2010, 05:04 PM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
I think changing the pitman arm length could leave you with bump steer.
I think you may be right about changing the steering angle pickup disc. But, covering up holes is probably not the right way. I'm guessing you'd need to just make a new one with the correct hole count, evenly spaced. And I think you need to increase hole count (space closer), since the longer pitman arm means the van turns quicker than with the stock arm, for the same steering wheel angle.
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03-10-2010, 07:47 PM
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Re: Ford 2wd lift kit?
Consider a partial 4x4 conversion before pulling the trigger on a 2wd lift. For about the same cost, you can have a front axle under the van, and complete the rest of the swap later. (t-case/etc)
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