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07-22-2016, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianW
^^xcnick, do you already have a thread showing the AC mod? If not, please start one with more pics and details. People are always asking about this. A separate thread would be a great resource.
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I was just thinking the same thing.
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07-22-2016, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianW
^^xcnick, do you already have a thread showing the AC mod? If not, please start one with more pics and details. People are always asking about this. A separate thread would be a great resource.
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Done, but the only mod is the hole in the plate holder.
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07-22-2016, 11:19 AM
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I have an RV roof-top AC, and while it works well and is generally out of the way, it does add weight very high up.
My most recent camping trip involved a couple stretches of side-hill that made me pretty nervous. I didn't tip over, but I'm not sure I could have stopped on one section without it doing so. Probably a trail I should have skipped with this van...
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07-22-2016, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MadScience
My most recent camping trip involved a couple stretches of side-hill that made me pretty nervous. I didn't tip over, but I'm not sure I could have stopped on one section without it doing so. Probably a trail I should have skipped with this van...
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I think most vans actual tip-over limit is actually well beyond most driver's pucker limit. And typically you're lateral grip limited anyways unless you slide against an obstacle. Even a heavy high top camper should have a cG well under 40", and with an 80" track width (more like 84-86" with bigger tires) it theoretically could sidehill a 1-1 slope and not tip.
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07-22-2016, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by carringb
I think most vans actual tip-over limit is actually well beyond most driver's pucker limit. And typically you're lateral grip limited anyways unless you slide against an obstacle. Even a heavy high top camper should have a cG well under 40", and with an 80" track width (more like 84-86" with bigger tires) it theoretically could sidehill a 1-1 slope and not tip.
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I was sliding towards a stump at the time. Puckered pretty hard. Kind of wish I had someone get a photo so I could correlate the in-van-feeling with reality.
Doesn't help that I watched a truck flip off the side of a trail earlier this year. So I'll concede that I might be more nervous than I need to be at the moment.
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07-22-2016, 07:17 PM
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The Pucker-O-Meter will always make it seem way worse than it is - that known, you can still get in trouble with one little bump in the wrong place. Makes it all the more fun!
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07-22-2016, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BajaSportsmobile
The Pucker-O-Meter will always make it seem way worse than it is - that known, you can still get in trouble with one little bump in the wrong place. Makes it all the more fun!
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As long as it isn't a Code Brown moment.
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07-22-2016, 10:11 PM
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The bit that got me is that it really felt like it was lifting up on the outside wheel and wanted to keep going. Without a picture I'm totally willing to accept that it was all in my head. As it was I hurried up and got past that spot with some good bouncing.
However, I did see a full sized pickup roll earlier this year. It went over way before I thought it would. So that still has me a little spooked.
All that does have me re-thinking weight on the roof. I have quite a bit of lift in the front, which obviously doesn't help.
Regardless, sorry to de-rail the thread, I'm kind of in love with that portable setup that xcnick has running of the inverter.
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07-24-2016, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bbasso
How do you plan on powering a household air conditioner?
Because we all know solar power isn't up to the task yet unless you want to spend $25K or are you going to run the vehicle with a large inverter to power the unit ? Or are you going to get a generator?
The reason why I ask is if you're going to run the vehicle just use the factory air conditioning. If you're going to run a generator, why not get a roof mounted unit and avoid the hassles of cutting the sides of a van and making contraptions to slide in and out which will compromise interior space.
Well your idea sounds intriguing, but I find many faults with it. Sorry to be blunt and honest but just trying to help you make better decisions
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I have a EU3000 which is overkill. Been looking at a 2000 and mounting it in a door box.
xcnick's idea is something I am going to look into....that is slick
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07-26-2016, 11:15 PM
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The problem with my idea is the portable takes up isle space which I can live with, but it makes it hard to use the drawers on either side of it which makes it even more a space hog. I would gladly give up the space for the porta potty to a window or through the wall unit. Also I found a you tube from consumers report which says all portables are crap compared to window units.
I always thought the window units cut into the back door looked terrible with the cardboard duct taped around it, but I now am beginning to see this as a pretty good idea, minus the cardboard.
Anyways I posted in my thread "Portable A/C" about today's adventure. The 8000 was useless in hundred degree heat and bought a 10000.
See the picture of where I mounted my 2000 genny. It is working well there between the motorcycle and the van.
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