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Old 05-07-2020, 01:23 PM   #21
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I have owned a 99 v10 w/3.73s and 285/75-16 tires. For the last 15 years an 04 v10 w/4.10s w/285s also. I don't tow, both 4x4 EBs at around 9600#. Day and night difference. Hated the 3.73s, no power and constant downshifting. The driveability of the 4.10s is perfect I would not have it any other way. I think the mileage was about the same, but even if it wasn't the pleasure was worth it.
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Old 05-07-2020, 01:40 PM   #22
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V10 tuning vs gearing

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IMHO you're fine with 3.73s if you just uncork the V10 and let it breathe, the stock exhaust is VERY restrictive and requires a few modifications starting with the Y-pipe which resembles more of a T then a Y. I redesigned mine using SLP 200cpi catalytic converters, eliminated the T and used a Merge Collector from Vibrant Performance, then i used a Flowmaster 50 Series SUV Muffler, next up was an SCT X4 programmer and 87 octane tune from 5 star.
The butt dyno feels like i swapped out the V10 for a V12 and it runs like a scalded dog.
You can swap out your gears and spend the same amount of money (probably more) and you won't be nearly as satisfied with the end result, you'll still have a dog for an engine and you might have some gear whine if they aren't installed correctly.
Other mods include a 170 degree thermostat, Wix 46418 air filter and D.U.I. SOS coils ($370), keep in mind my V10 is a 2008 model and it's also a Jasper reman.
The engine runs cooler, makes a LOT more power and if i keep my foot out of it, gets better mileage. My goal when building the engine was not to make more power, my goal was to reduce operating temps, increase BMEP, fuel mileage, volumetric efficiency and engine longevity, the side effect was more power.
There's always more then one way to skin a cat, this was my choice, do it like you want too..
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Old 05-07-2020, 02:20 PM   #23
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You can swap out your gears and spend the same amount of money (probably more) and you won't be nearly as satisfied with the end result, you'll still have a dog for an engine.
If you haven't done it, howe would you know?

FWIW - I did my intake, full exhaust, and tuning before doing lower gears. The lower gears matter most when towing. More power is great, but allowing the motor to spin at an RPM when the power is usable, matters more.
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Old 05-07-2020, 02:26 PM   #24
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As carringb mentions above, you want to keep rpm's where its most usable. When you modify exhaust, you typically lose bottom end torque but gain it in higher rpms. If you keep 3.73's and run taller tires, you wont be in the rpm band where your motor makes the power.
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:07 PM   #25
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I gotta admit this is one of the best post I've seen on here for the very desireable V10. I think there is a good middle ground here. I think making an engine breathe is key to a happy long life and horse power otherwise all the Veteran engine builders would not have ported and enlarged exhaust. I also believe it is not a race to the finish type of scenario for a VAN. I think that a nice exhaust upgrade with all Jorge says would be good "BUT" I agree with Caringb and mikracer I would drop in 4.30's with at least 4.10 on 285's for the engine sweet spot and not to mention the life of your TRANSMISSION which no one has spoken about yet! Also listen to Caringb about the Sterling rear axle with an E locker. I just spent roughly $500.00 on 4.30's with a rebuild kit and another $120.00 on TracLoc clutches for my Dana 60 rear! I wanted a Detroit but they are not available for my ridiculous semi float which I screwed up when I ordered the van. After thinking about it I would have been better off with a Sterling and the E locker at about $600.00 to $800.00 (low baller cash) with the 4.30's in it! By the way I run the 4.30's with a 7.3 diesel and my trans is happy when I mash it on my second level Bully Dog setting! It use to surge, NO more.
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Old 05-07-2020, 11:12 PM   #26
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Almost always use 4:10 's in our E350 V10 builds. Works Great.
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Old 05-08-2020, 06:56 AM   #27
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I had mine done by agile and with 33's they recommend going to 4.10. it's not that 3.73 won't work but it will put more load on the trany. Over time you will wear on the trany and cause problems. While you have the did apart might as well put lockers or a limited slip.
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Old 05-08-2020, 06:24 PM   #28
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Full floater go locker semi go Trac loc. Remember if your at 285's minimum 4.10 preferably 4.30. 35's 4.30 preferably 4.56 for the tranny sake!
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