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10-19-2013, 10:48 AM
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
I would guess that newer, well-appointed, SMBs (like this) depreciate about $1000/month. If so, then this price drop only reflects the lower value based on the ticking clock, not a real closing of the gap between value and cost.
Disclaimers:
1) I am not a real economist, nor do I play one on TV.
2) I am not dissing this van, nor the owner's pricing strategy.
3) I am simply making an observation. Perhaps my observation is juvenile/misinformed/wrong, and if so, I hope the fallacies will be pointed out to me.
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10-19-2013, 12:11 PM
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Location: Parker, CO
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
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Originally Posted by Esmi2
I would guess that newer, well-appointed, SMBs (like this) depreciate about $1000/month. If so, then this price drop only reflects the lower value based on the ticking clock, not a real closing of the gap between value and cost.
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Making up numbers in Excel, I get about $500 a month for a $100,000+ new 4x4 50, as high as $800. But it's not linear by any means, I don't think, and saying "SMBs" is like saying "All fruits and vegetables"- there is a very, very wide range and they don't hold their value the same way.
Here is what I did (*approximately, I already closed Excel):
New (.5 years) $100,000
3 years old $80,000
5 years old $50,000
8 years old $35,000
12 years old $26,000
Obviously this is a Champagne Gold RB with cloth seats.
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10-19-2013, 12:21 PM
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Location: Preston, ID
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $50k
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Originally Posted by Esmi2
At first blush, the internet indicates the the 6.0 is the albatross around the neck of 02-07 Fords.
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But when they work, oy.
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10-19-2013, 02:42 PM
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Location: San Luis Obispo County, CA
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
I concur with your numbers, and I disagree with mine.
My fuzzball math started with a $120K van in 2005, and a $50K van in 2012. $10K/year = $800/month, and as you pointed out, the most expensive months were the early ones.
Ergo, in this example, this van is depreciating ±$300/month. And the price cut (from first posting here) amounts to about $1000/month. So price and value are in fact coming closer.
EDIT TO ADD: Very very nice van by the way. I look at this ad nearly every day
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Originally Posted by jage
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Originally Posted by Esmi2
I would guess that newer, well-appointed, SMBs (like this) depreciate about $1000/month. If so, then this price drop only reflects the lower value based on the ticking clock, not a real closing of the gap between value and cost.
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Making up numbers in Excel, I get about $500 a month for a $100,000+ new 4x4 50, as high as $800. But it's not linear by any means, I don't think, and saying "SMBs" is like saying "All fruits and vegetables"- there is a very, very wide range and they don't hold their value the same way.
Here is what I did (*approximately, I already closed Excel):
New (.5 years) $100,000
3 years old $80,000
5 years old $50,000
8 years old $35,000
12 years old $26,000
Obviously this is a Champagne Gold RB with cloth seats.
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10-20-2013, 10:10 PM
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Location: Parker, CO
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
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Originally Posted by Esmi2
EDIT TO ADD: Very very nice van by the way. I look at this ad nearly every day
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When you lose sleep it's time to buy. I also don't think the 6.0L is a reason to pass on a van, unless you simply want a gasser. Then again I don't buy into dropping thousands into an engine because it might fail, because someone else's failed, nor even because a lot of pickups with it failed. *shrug*
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10-21-2013, 10:10 AM
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
So just to clarify. The heater/ furnace/ ac only works if it is plugged in to 110 source? Any more photos
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10-21-2013, 10:54 AM
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
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Originally Posted by amoswhiting
So just to clarify. The heater/ furnace/ ac only works if it is plugged in to 110 source? Any more photos
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Yes the heater/ac only works if it is plugged in to a 110 source.
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11-09-2013, 12:01 PM
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $50k
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Originally Posted by jage
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Originally Posted by steven2
does the pop-top have a bed? is it electric or manual?
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The PH bed is the plain gray surface tilted in the last picture, the PH beds clip with cable loops to the top and raise out of the way- in the pic only the front two cables are on.
And it doesn't have the arms in the X of the PH that would indicate an electric, but there are other ways to lift one if manual is not an option.
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What are the other ways to lift a top? I don't suppose ccv will do some kind of conversion?
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11-09-2013, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Parker, CO
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
ratcheting truck bed cargo bar
electric lift from aluminess
have SMB retrofit a e-PH
um... all I can think of at the moment
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12-14-2013, 12:42 AM
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Re: 2005 Ford E350 6.0 Diesel Sportsmobile 71k $45k
Still for sale. EDIT: SOLD!
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