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Old 10-11-2021, 02:09 PM   #31
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Ignoring what's happening above, that seems like 'we don't really want to build these, but if we do, we need to make it worth our while' pricing. But the backlog says otherwise.

I still just can't get over the fact that they had the chance to redesign an entirely custom body and just...recreated an EB with a slightly larger interior, presumably to just re-use their existing interior designs. Seems like a huge missed opportunity.
Curious what you would have done different in terms of body design. Other than going with the B+ style, what else would be desirable in these types of rigs?
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Old 10-11-2021, 08:53 PM   #32
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I can't answer for B.rock but I do agree with him. I've always been puzzled about this. I can't tell you how I would do it differently but I definitely would do it differently. Just seems like a more square box with straighter walls would make more sense, but, Ford already did that (Transit), as did Dodge (Promaster) and Benz (Sprinter). I know the older body on frame argument of course and there are other reasons an E series works for so many.

Also, I'm sure a huge part of SMB's decision to clone an E series had to do with them having the top molds and the rest of the cabinetry and interior bits, measurements, 4wd system, workers with years of experience with this model, etc. etc.

It's just always puzzled me that they took years to bring out a fiberglass copy of an E series.

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Old 10-12-2021, 12:37 PM   #33
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Well, for that much money, they should probably make it look like the van in Mr. 86Scotty's profile photo.
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:35 AM   #34
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In business it is called "price point". It is simply what people are willing to pay for a product.
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:51 AM   #35
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Like 86Scotty said - squarer walls. Even potentially something like a full size Tiger Astro but with solid axles or mini earth roamer. Shrink the rear overhang but optimize/improve interior space. But I get it, they got to reuse their pop top, interior bits, etc. and the fiberglass body does have its benefits.
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