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Old 11-29-2009, 10:01 PM   #1
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Hot Turbo Hose

Anyone with a 2003 thru 2007 6.0 TD might want to check their Turbo hoses ! I just replaced what Ford said was a running upgrade from the badly installed and defective Hose that came with the van new . The defective hoses ( there are two ) are the hot side hoses . The replacement hoses have an Orange Liner in them and are thicker . I had Shawn at Zylstra's install an Edge Platinum Controller for the purpose of getting true Transmission , EGT ,Oil temperatures and Turbo Boost readings and when he took the Van out for a pre installation test drive he said you've got a blown Turbo Hose . Sure enough a half hour later he removed the Hose and it had a large 2" tear in it .Shawn indicated that this is a common problem with our Diesel powered Vans and That Ford had apparently published a service bulletin to it's dealers some time ago . The old hose is all Blue and the replacement is Blue with an Orange liner inside .
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:28 PM   #2
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Re: Hot Turbo Hose

So is there a way to check without removing the hoses to see the inside?


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Old 11-29-2009, 11:46 PM   #3
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I will call Shawn at Zylstra's tomorrow A.M. and find the the best way to check hose condition and post here on the Forum .
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The hose to check is accessed from under the hood and difficult to visually inspect .The hose that is the short blue hose that is attached to the Turbo Pipe . Shawn at Zlstras said to allow the engine to cool completely and locate the Silver Turbo Pipe and reach into and along the Pipe until you can inspect physically with your hand . In my case there was no doubt about the hose being blown because of the whooshing sound made under load . He said that this is the hose that most frequently fails and that the longer Intercooler Hose can but does not fail as frequently . I posted two photo's in my gallery last evening so that you can get an idea what it looks like .The longer Intercooler Hose is apparently accessed thru the Doghouse .The upgraded replacement for this Hose was made in 2007 and any Vans made prior to 2007 should inspect and change out if for no other reason than peace of mind .
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:31 PM   #5
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So Greg, I'm not supposed to ask a question in this section but... do you think Ford would have checked and upgraded the hose after EGR Cooler and injector replacement? My God they even had the manifold off...you'd think they would have replaced it doing the repair/upgrade. But then I don't trust Ford. The engine did sound a bit different after they worked on it. Yes, a swoosh sound at certain RPM's that I'd never noticed before. But the boost gauge seems normal. We can start a different thread if needed but for now I'll just leave it as is.
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Old 12-01-2009, 11:28 PM   #6
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Dave ,
That wasn't me that had those problems .
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Anyone with a 2003 thru 2007 6.0 TD might want to check their Turbo hoses ! I just replaced what Ford said was a running upgrade from the badly installed and defective Hose that came with the van new . The defective hoses ( there are two ) are the hot side hoses . The replacement hoses have an Orange Liner in them and are thicker . I had Shawn at Zylstra's install an Edge Platinum Controller for the purpose of getting true Transmission , EGT ,Oil temperatures and Turbo Boost readings and when he took the Van out for a pre installation test drive he said you've got a blown Turbo Hose . Sure enough a half hour later he removed the Hose and it had a large 2" tear in it .Shawn indicated that this is a common problem with our Diesel powered Vans and That Ford had apparently published a service bulletin to it's dealers some time ago . The old hose is all Blue and the replacement is Blue with an Orange liner inside .
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:02 AM   #8
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Dave ,
I apologize , i took your post to mean that Ford had done those repairs to my van ,
I would hope that they would check and change these Hose's when performing any type of service work of a complicated nature . Hell I am lucky to get the dealers down here to fix anything .
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No problem, it was a happy nite ...err until I came upon your post. Now I wonder.
It seems we have a poor set of Ford dealerships around here. The one place charged me the standard 100 bucks for the EGR failure then a week later the same thing failed but because they all of a sudden found a bad injector (which I told them the oil test showed) they charged me the 100 bucks again. If the hose is indeed bad, I figure they knew it and am waiting for the next 100 bucks I'm just trying to figure out how to see the orange lining W/O taking it off? You'd think they wouldda changed it, but there is no mention on the work order.
thanks for the heads up
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:35 AM   #10
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Anyone with a 2003 thru 2007 6.0 TD might want to check their Turbo hoses ! I just replaced what Ford said was a running upgrade from the badly installed and defective Hose that came with the van new . The defective hoses ( there are two ) are the hot side hoses . The replacement hoses have an Orange Liner in them and are thicker . I had Shawn at Zylstra's install an Edge Platinum Controller for the purpose of getting true Transmission , EGT ,Oil temperatures and Turbo Boost readings and when he took the Van out for a pre installation test drive he said you've got a blown Turbo Hose . Sure enough a half hour later he removed the Hose and it had a large 2" tear in it .Shawn indicated that this is a common problem with our Diesel powered Vans and That Ford had apparently published a service bulletin to it's dealers some time ago . The old hose is all Blue and the replacement is Blue with an Orange liner inside .
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Reviving this thread because I discovered the same problem yesterday. Or more accurately, Hubert at BBA did. My problem hose was the big blue one that is clearly visible and accessible from the front. I don't think the same hose as in Greggde's pic, which looks shorter.

The hose was rubbing against a metal part of the AC system (second time I've had trouble due to 'rubbing' against a part of the AC system) and much of the hose had been worn away. Hubert also said air was being sucked in thru a split in the top of the hose up near the clamp. Bizarrely, when they took the van for a test drive after a bunch of regular maintenance, the hose blew under full power. There was a loud bang, loss of power and the motor sounded like a jet engine. The hose had completely ruptured up near the clamp.

Luckily for me this did not happen in the middle of BFE, and even more so that Hubert was able to locate a heavy duty replacement hose less than 45min away. My only downside was a 3 hour delay to get the new hose and have it installed. No big deal.

So worth a visual inspection just to avoid trouble on the road.

Also, if you have not perused Greggde's gallery of pics, it is an excellent encyclopedia of SMB knowledge. Full of fix-it tips, upgrades, fly rods, bird guns and other good stuff.
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