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Old 11-13-2024, 10:18 AM   #1
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House battery upgrade

My original batteries are not what they used to be. Sportsmobile installed them with build 2017. Not sure if they are 200ah, or larger. I want to go to lithium ion? What is the best brand to research? What have you found to be the best product on the market?

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Old 11-13-2024, 10:46 AM   #2
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@Russell -- There are tons of battery options out there. The "best" are the BattleBorn batteries:

Battleborn Batteries:
https://battlebornbatteries.com/

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A few other great choices are:

LiTime (unbeatable price)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

SOK
https://www.us.sokbattery.com/?ref=o...hoCiVIQAvD_BwE

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I went with the LiTime batteries on my tow behind camper and was blown away with the quality. If you need a quick fix I would highly recommend. If I was going for a "best in class" purchase I would go with the SOK. I think the BattleBorn are awesome but you're paying a ton of money for the name. SOK is mega high quality.
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You may be aware of this but its a lot more involved switching to Lithium than simply installing them. The charge profile is different, often times requiring a DC to DC charger to increase the voltage, larger gauge wiring from the alternator, a larger alternator, a provision to prevent freezing (possibly self heating or instillation inside the van) etc. some brands claim to be dropin replacements but i dont know how true that is. Sorry but i dont have any brand recommendations because i havent switched (yet) Good luck with your research.
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Another one to look at and on par with LiTime is Chins. I have a 400 A/H Chins Smart battery in my SMB and it has been flawless. I have a pair of 200 A/H Chins dumb batteries in my pickup camper shell camper setup that likewise has been great. However if your budget can do it, grab the one with the Bluetooth smart BMS, I love getting battery data right from the battery...
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You may be aware of this but its a lot more involved switching to Lithium than simply installing them. The charge profile is different, often times requiring a DC to DC charger to increase the voltage, larger gauge wiring from the alternator, a larger alternator, a provision to prevent freezing (possibly self heating or instillation inside the van) etc. some brands claim to be dropin replacements but i dont know how true that is. Sorry but i dont have any brand recommendations because i havent switched (yet) Good luck with your research.
Depending on your needs this might not be required.

For the hassles listed above my plan was to replaced it with another AGM. Our previous 4D AGM was from 2018 and it served us well in both winter and summer for the past 6 years. However, when it came time to replace it we could get a Lithium battery from Renogy for the same price as an equivalent AGM. Everything else being equal, I felt it was worth the change for the weight alone to save my back. (Never mind the double useable capacity...)

I haven't bothered with a DC-DC charger and simply don't have alternator charging yet. In the summer we've never needed anything more than our solar set up. In the winter we used to be able to go a few days without running the engine on our 230Ah AGM. Now that we have a full 200Ah capacity from the lithium, I feel like we should be able to get 5-6 days which covers most winter trips. That's ignoring any small solar we might get.

Anyway, if you're going to make the switch I would re-evaluate your use and whether or not you even need to bother with alternator charging.

As for vendors, no issues with our Renogy battery so far. I know they don't have the same following as Battle Born, but for well over half the price I think they're worth a look. They have a new 300Ah battery that's less than $1,000 CDN ($600US?) and is smaller than a 4D.
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The SOK batteries look good. My only concern would be the cold and lithium’s poor performance in cold weather. I would also be concerned with the safety issues often associated with lithium batteries.

I currently have a Goal Zero Yeti 1400 Lithium Portable Power Station. It keeps the refer going for up to 5 days. I have been using it since 2018 with no issues.
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I think this new battery could be the ONE. I saw it at overland expo and was really impressed. Expion builds top notch batteries.
https://expion360.com/products/12v-2...-smarttalk-vhc
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Check Will Prowse on YouTube for research on battery manufacturers - and lots of good context information regarding lithium usage and such
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I installed Expion LiFePO4 360 120 AH X3 batteries in our Sportsmobile West build (now Field Vans) in 2020. They have functioned flawlessly for the past 4 years. The newer versions have built in heater systems to enable charging in cold temperatures. The batteries I have are group 27, weigh ~ 30 lbs each. I use a REDARC 50 amp DC to DC charger / 230 W solar on the roof with a portable 120 W Zamp suitcase if in a shady area. Customer service was great when I was looking for cold weather charging options.
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Old 11-23-2024, 09:03 AM   #10
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Battery Upgrade

Wow, thank you all for the suggestions. Looks like I have a lot of research to do. I really want to keep it simple if possible, so I'm talking with Battle Born to get their recommendations, there is a lot to factor in when buying a 10 year plus house battery system.
So I will see where it leads me, and report back to you all.
Enjoy our new red wave.
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