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Old 06-22-2022, 05:02 PM   #11
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Bill, that makes me chuckle


I've straightened out a few wallowing pigs, and I like your list, rear sway bars really help, as do very stiff shocks, helper bags (the 100psi type) will help a lot. But from my experience, it lacks an examination of tires, specifically tire sidewall stiffness.


You mention single rear wheel, which isn't by itself horrible, but with the overhang typically present on class C motorhomes, often rear bath and gray, black, and freshwater tank locations (causing the center of gravity to move aft) not having stiff enough sidewall tires will have a profound effect on camper 'wallowing'.



When I say profound, I'm not overstating here, we're talkin' night and day difference. 8ply, 12ply load range E or higher if you can find 'em, all four corners. That, with sway bars and shocks, helper bags if the rear is sagging, and it will drive like a new rig.
Awesome on the tire input

my rig is 19 foot so not a huge over hang and no real saggy butt

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air bags: can u send me a link what you have in mind

thank you in advance

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Old 06-22-2022, 08:41 PM   #12
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I have had a Firestone remote control setup on my F350 dually for 4 years without any problems, and love what it does and the flexibility for many different weights and loads. You can choose from rear only, front only or all for corners, be sure to get the correct compressor for your needs. The remote control option is awesome!

https://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index...oducts_id=6243
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Old 06-22-2022, 10:46 PM   #13
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Yep, dual convoluted Firestone bags with brackets. I have a set on my E350 EB. I’ve also had a set on an F350. I like the simplicity of a Schrader valve per bag, but the sky’s the limit for convenience with on board air and in cab leveling options from Air-Lift
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Im lost here.... Exactly what is the problem youre attempting to address by installing all of these items? There are no specifics given as to the exact issue youre having, yet youre asking for input?

Most all Class C and above RV's suffer from what is called tailwag due to the height and length of the vehicle. My 21 foot Chinook suffered from it as well. I installed a heavier sway bar in front and added a heavy sway bar in the rear with fox shocks. Although it certainly helped in cornering and overall stability, it did not not eliminate the tailwag.

I got so sick of having white knuckles on the freeway that i finally purchased a Blue Ox tracbar setup for it. I removed the Hellwig rear sway bar because it was just to stiff and installed the tracbar setup. No more tailwag. Thats my first hand experience with a Class C. Tailwag mimicks front end alignment issues which cause you to think something is wrong with the steering when its actually the rear of the truck causing the issue.

Its just one of my experiences with my RV, not saying its your issue or that youre even having an issue,
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I just heard from Blue Ox that they stopped making the Tiger Trak system 4 years ago.

Shame.
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It was the exact same kit that supersteer is selling. They list a couple of options for the E series class C RV's. The SS450 would be the same kit thats on mine.


https://supersteerparts.com/products...e350-e450.html

https://supersteerparts.com/products...-sway-bar.html
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It was the exact same kit that supersteer is selling. They list a couple of options for the E series class C RV's. The SS450 would be the same kit thats on mine.


https://supersteerparts.com/products...e350-e450.html

https://supersteerparts.com/products...-sway-bar.html
I went down this road a bit ago

Still an option for the super steer

The only way to test is a real life install on my own rig

Plan:
bilsteins install ( in garage )
helwig install ( in garage )

Test drive

for sure upgrade tires

options:
front HD sway
front sumos
rear sumos
airbags on rear
deavers
super steer

gotta keep my budget in mind to pay for Gas, for Summer Road Trips ;-)
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gotta keep my budget in mind to pay for Gas, for Summer Road Trips ;-)
If you have the AAA 200mile tow package, you can recoup some fuel cost by having them tow you just that far.
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If you have the AAA 200mile tow package, you can recoup some fuel cost by having them tow you just that far.
LOL, will keep that in mind

FYI
i am pretty set on my upgrade
will post results

ALWAYS a big thank you

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