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Old 10-19-2010, 06:21 PM   #21
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Re: Largest Tire Size for Stock 4X2 2002 Ford E250 Van

You've got that right, Mike. She definitely is a keeper!

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Old 10-19-2010, 09:50 PM   #22
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Re: Largest Tire Size for Stock 4X2 2002 Ford E250 Van

Simple math Mac,

Wife Happy = Me Happy = More mods for rig
I live by this rule

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Old 10-19-2010, 11:49 PM   #23
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She told me last night she has no interest in seeing every dirt road in the SW United States. I said that's exactly what I want to do. Her response: "Have fun!"
Has your wife been talking to my wife? I swear I heard those same words out of my wife's mouth. Maybe we should send those two off to the spa and the two of us take off to the dirt! There seems to be a ton of cool stuff to see between Las Vegas and Los Angeles, so hit me up if you want to meet in the middle sometime.

I suggested to my wife that we go see Racetrack in Death Valley for our inaugural trip and made the mistake of mentioning ahead of time that it was at the end of a 30 mile washboard road. Maybe it wasn't a mistake since her finding that out once we got there = wife unhappy, then see the rest of Ray's equation.

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Old 10-20-2010, 07:21 AM   #24
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Re: Largest Tire Size for Stock 4X2 2002 Ford E250 Van

Steve:

We definitely need to get together. Except my wife really wants to see the Race Track in Death Valley. Of course I didn't tell her about the washboard road, but she would be up to that anyway. When I told her about my trip to Toroweep (64 miles on washboard) she wanted to go the next week.

I'm heading for the Oatman, Az and Mojave National Preserve on Thursday morning. Thought I'd tinker around Oatman Thursday and, if I don't camp there Thursday night, will head over to Mitchel Caverns in the Mojave Preserve. Then just explore some dirt roads in that area Friday. I might stay Friday night there somewhere and head back Saturday morning since I have meetings Saturday afternoon that I have to attend.

The nice thing about living in Vegas is that I can head out on a whim for little one-night trips in any direction and see some amazing sites. So I'm definitely up for hooking up somewhere on a Friday/Saturday deal. Because of church responsibilities I'm never available on Sundays. So let's get together!

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Old 10-20-2010, 09:36 AM   #25
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Steve in LA:

What size tires did you put on your van after your QuadVan conversion?
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On Quadvan's recommendation I have 275/70R18 Nitto Terra Grapplers. I wanted 33" inch tires on 18" wheels that could take tire chains without rubbing. My wheels are 18x8.5 with +12mm offset, and the 285 width in the E-rated Terra Grappler was only available in a 32.5" tire. They ride very quietly, but since I haven't been off-road yet, I can't speak to their performance. I'll see how these do for a few years and maybe change to a wider, more aggressive tire in the future.

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Old 10-20-2010, 01:50 PM   #27
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Re: Largest Tire Size for Stock 4X2 2002 Ford E250 Van

Just in case anyone is interested, here are the various recommendations for tire size on my van AFTER it is lifted:

Camburg: 285/75/16
Discount Tire: 285/70/17
QuadVan: 275/70/18
Quigley: 245/70/17
Salem Kroger: 245/75/17

Before the lift I currently have 245/75/16.

So, do I just throw the dice and choose whatever I want, or does it really matter?
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Re: Largest Tire Size for Stock 4X2 2002 Ford E250 Van

Only thing that matters is your satisfaction.

Good luck with this project - we want to see some pictures of the van after the lift and wheels/tires!

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Re: Largest Tire Size for Stock 4X2 2002 Ford E250 Van

35" 12,5"x16" front and rear
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Re: Largest Tire Size for Stock 4X2 2002 Ford E250 Van

Let's translate to inches:
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Camburg:          32.8  x  12.6
Discount Tire:    32.7  x  12.6
QuadVan:          33.2  x  12.2
Quigley:          30.5  x  10.9
Salem Kroger:     31.5  x  10.9

Before the lift:  30.5  x  10.9

Stock SMB:*       32.8  x  12.6       (285/75/16)
Jagemobile:*      32.8  x  13.5       (305/70/16)

*These are not "MAX" either can fit 35s.
Don't let the precision fool you, tire sizes vary between manufacturers more than that. So essentially you're looking at 33s, 32s, or 31s instead of 30s.

The effect of the different sizes is ride height- not only does your pumpkin go up ½" for each size (negligible) but your running boards do too- I found myself in that situation with springs, but if you're van is at the perfect height 3" might change things significantly.

Again, nothing is exact, in different tire manufacturers the same size notations are physically different sizes, so your choices aren't very wide.

Speaking of width, width affects one thing primarily, and that is whether your tires rub on suspension or van components at full lock (wheel all the way turned). Keep in mind that something that doesn't rub in the parking lot might rub when the tire is stuffed under the van. The variation in widths possibly accounts for different components, but I think all the numbers are to keep you from rubbing at lock, whereas I don't generally worry about that (mine rub).

The last thing is rim size. Rim size is necessary to clear your brakes (or future brake upgrades) but negatively impacts amount of rubber between your rim and the road. You get a stiffer ride and higher tire rating with less rubber, but offroad you have less cushion when you air down. Personally I like a maximum amount of rubber, which on the van is second only to having E rated tires.

However, you could spin 24s and have 285/30/24s and you'd have 31x11 which would fit most of the options up there.... which is to say I'm confused by the 18" rim in Quadvan's recommendation, because you can ALWAYS go with a bigger rim.

So, to further confuse the matter, you've got Discount Tire listed with all the others. Clearly from the recommendations a Camburg lift is not equivalent to a Quigley lift for whatever size you're comparing, so I can't imagine that the Discount Tire is relevant unless your van is already lifted and the techs can look at it- in which case the other manufacturers recommendations are pointless since their recommendations are for their lift, not "lift of X inches".

Hope this helps, but if you pick a lift and then a tire brand and style (or two) the choices will narrow down significantly, and you can ask "I know a 285/75/16 Toyo MT will fit, but will a 305/70/16?" which was my question. The answer: they do, but they rub, which is OK.
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