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Old 03-17-2015, 02:40 PM   #1
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Air Bag light

Air bag flashed 34 since I bought the van which is Restraint System – Safety Belt Pretensioner Status (Passenger Pretensioner Circuit Failure)

Although I see no wires to that seat belt and there is no air bag on the passanger side I changed the pretensioner to ratcheting mode for baby seats and then put it back just for a laugh. Low and behold now I get a different code, 13

13 is Crash Data Memory Full INSTALL a new RCM and impact sensors. This not only sounds worse but more expensive.

A quick search of the net brought this up:

http://karmanauto.com/product/ford-or-l ... ir-service

Anybody know if this works or is it a waste of $50?

Since I live in the world of bizaro, the seat belt light and dinger is not working. I see on the net ways to disable and re enable this. My thought is to enable this again. (procedure is to do and undue the belt a number of times in 50 seconds, rub your tummy and pat your head with the lights on.) Could this have any effect on the airbag light?

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Old 03-17-2015, 06:16 PM   #2
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Re: Air Bag light

I tried the tricks to disable enable to seat belt warning. It actually did change the codes coming from the air bag warning. One time it went to 15 which is a code not listed and now it is back to 34. But it is not going away.
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Re: Air Bag light

Would be very helpful knowing what year chassis etc we're talking about here......

Assuming this is pre-1997 and previously seat mounted lap belt pre-tensioners were installed their removal is seen as a fault in the SRS which triggers the dash light---and a code too.

Remaining air bags will deploy if triggered. The module in your link doesn't and won't address a failed or removed pre-tensioner.
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:30 AM   #4
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Re: Air Bag light

It's pretty common for SMBs with swivel passenger seat bases to have issues with the wiring connector under the seat, causing the airbag light to come on. Swiveling the seat will sometimes cause the connector and/or wires to get messed up. Have you checked that? Sometimes I have to unplug and re-seat mine to get the airbag light to go off. Search the archives for more discussions on this issue.
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:31 AM   #5
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Re: Air Bag light

The odd sounding thing here is that you are getting a code for a passenger seat airbag when the 1996 chassis (AFAIK) didn't HAVE a passenger side airbag. That came out with the new engine/dash/etc. in 1997.

So it seems like either your airbag system is confused for some reason, or.... I wonder if components from a later/different van were ever installed? When I was reading the service bulletin about removing a passenger seat (in a 1997+ with a passenger side airbag), there was information in it about the pre-tensioners, etc. being coded to the vehicle. Obviously there must be a procedure for replacing the originals with new ones, but I wonder if there could be a case where new parts were put in and not "registered" correctly (?).

I know very little about the system, really, so just take this as some fireside "noodling."

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PS: In case it would help, the link to the Ford document about removing a seat (which is for 1997+ but did also have general information about handling pre-tensioners, etc.) is in a thread I started called something like "So can I just remove the passenger seat?"

PPS: Here is a link to that thread. (OP I know you have seen it, but since others may read later...)
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:27 AM   #6
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Re: Air Bag light

Thanks guys, there is no wire under the passenger seat like there is on the drivers seat. '96 ford van with 460.

Sounds like spending $50 on the module is a waste.

Is Ford the only place to go or are there seatbelt airbag specialist that might be better?

Can some brands of scan tools at least clear the memory and see if the code comes back. (My local guy could not see the code for air bag with his.)
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Re: Air Bag light

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Can some brands of scan tools at least clear the memory and see if the code comes back. (My local guy could not see the code for air bag with his.)
Scan tools need to have B or body codes as a capability---typically found only on the higher end sophisticated diagnostic tools such as Snap On's Solis etc.

I have an "older" Actron CP9580 that is quite extensive but won't read B codes.
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