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09-24-2020, 07:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Burbank
Posts: 284
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It's electric/auto POP top time.
I can still do it but have noticed the top is much heavier than 17 years ago or more likely age is catching up with me.
So what's the deal on going auto, electric lift on my 2003 E350 4X4 SMB?
Anyone converted to auto lift? Pro's/con's etc.
Is there other choices other than SMB West (or whatever it will be know as in the future).
2003, E350, 7.3, SMB, 280,000+ and looking for more
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09-25-2020, 07:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 145
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I did so. I had my conversion done by SMB Texas, and when I first did things, I went with a manual lift - faster, more reliable (I thought...), simpler, cheaper.
However, due to the specifics of my van, the space for the springs was tight, and the springs just couldn't really handle it. After a couple of years, they started to relax to the point that the top could crash down if the bed were secured to the top.
Not good.
So I went in to get a lift put in. And now all is good - although it obviously takes a bit more time to lift and lower.
The other advantage of the lift is that you can stop part-way down, and tuck the top in before lowering all the way.
If you do this: no matter what they tell you, plan on 2 full days of work. Plan on staying the night in a hotel, not the rig. If things go smoothly and they get it done in a day, great! But they have to really dig to put the system into place; having the extra time will make your life and theirs a whole lot better.
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09-25-2020, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 4,208
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Any ballpark on what it costs to convert a manual top to a power one?
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09-25-2020, 08:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 1,379
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SMB charges $3500-5k for the conversion of their top to power. Slightly more than the upcharge to do it at install. The alternative is to go with the superior power Colorado campervan top at $11.5k.
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09-25-2020, 08:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 4,208
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Wow, yikes! I guess I can live with the manual.
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09-25-2020, 09:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Boulder, CO.
Posts: 2,554
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You can also adjust the spring tension and put in slightly larger preload blocks on your pop top to get it working properly again. It’s not the easiest job, and takes a bit of nerves and some good strong ratchet straps and a come a long. Throw a winch line safety weight, dampener or heavy blanket on everything while you’re working for good measure.
I think there’s a few threads on the subject, pop the top, unscrew and peel back the fabric on both sides to expose the lift springs and chain, the idea is to pull the spring to hook a few links further up on the chain at a time to test the results. The smaller spring at the rear is a preload spring, it provides the initial lift before the main springs take over, there’s a wooden block behind it, start by cutting one that’s 1/2” longer and go from there.
The idea is to get a balance between opening and closing, too much tension will pop it up quickly, but you won’t be able to pull it down.
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'03 Ford E350 7.3L Diesel
(de)SMB'd Custom RB-50
Quigley 4X4 w/Deavers & Agile Offroad's R.I.P. package
CCV High Profile Pop Top
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09-25-2020, 10:02 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Laguna Beach
Posts: 122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HIGHCOUNTRYMIKE
I can still do it but have noticed the top is much heavier than 17 years ago or more likely age is catching up with me.
So what's the deal on going auto, electric lift on my 2003 E350 4X4 SMB?
Anyone converted to auto lift? Pro's/con's etc.
Is there other choices other than SMB West (or whatever it will be know as in the future).
2003, E350, 7.3, SMB, 280,000+ and looking for more
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HIGHCOUNTRYMIKE -
PM Sent.
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10-01-2020, 01:21 PM
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#8
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 11
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Check out this solution: https://www.rvairlifters.com.au/air_lifters.htm
The look easy to install, I can't image they would cost close to 3500 to 5k. If you already have on board air it would be even easier.
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10-01-2020, 01:32 PM
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#9
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 9
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We purchased our old EB350 with a manual popup, and the guy had included a jack setup which made it easy to push the top up until the springs engaged. It works enough for this old lady.
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10-01-2020, 04:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: So Cal
Posts: 4,070
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HighcountryMike: If you are willing to make the drive to Orange County I'd be happy to adjust your springs....both the main springs and the helper springs.
I highly recommend that you do this before shelling out the cash for power...since there's no downside......
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2013 KTM 350 EXC
2008 KTM 250 XCF-W
2003 Honda Element
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