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Old 06-02-2020, 11:41 PM   #11
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Why not reach out to forum member MSD, who works at CCV
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I contacted Mark some months ago. The solution offered was to pinch it. Iíll write him an email when I have a minute. I knew posting here would get me fast results.
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Old 06-03-2020, 02:48 AM   #12
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It sounds like the bulb seal trim wasn't spec'd correctly for the thickness of the pop top. Mine takes some force to remove (I've replaced it twice). I was having an issue with the bulb seal sticking to the decade-old single-stage paint on the van body, and the actuators would end up tearing the bulb seal away leaving the trim still attached to the pop top edge. This was with name-brand Trim-Lok, too.

Unlikely that you're having the same sticking problem I had; but in case you're interested, the problem was fixed by adding SMB UHMW protective tape around the perimeter.
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Old 06-03-2020, 11:55 AM   #13
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^^^^^ Thanks, Kibo! I can imagine the rubber wanting to stick to the top, especially in the heat. It started out with a couple of feet not wanting to stay in place and now it’s most of the passenger side. Your comment about proper spec makes me wonder about that. The darn thing just wants to slide right off. I’m going to contact Mark at CCV and see what he says at this point. I’m waiting for a delivery of the 3M stickum stuff.
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Old 06-03-2020, 01:23 PM   #14
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Wipe the rubber down with silicone lube. That'll take care of the sticking part of it.
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Old 06-03-2020, 02:24 PM   #15
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^^^^^ Thanks, Kibo! I can imagine the rubber wanting to stick to the top, especially in the heat. It started out with a couple of feet not wanting to stay in place and now itís most of the passenger side. Your comment about proper spec makes me wonder about that. The darn thing just wants to slide right off. Iím going to contact Mark at CCV and see what he says at this point. Iím waiting for a delivery of the 3M stickum stuff.
I'm pretty sure the 3M stuff will work having used it for seals on other vehicles. Dai at Opt Overland said he had the issue you've described on his early builds, so he had switched to a different size when he built mine. I'd be happy to send you samples from the seals I had to replace, but fair warning that replacing the full seal is expensive (Dai covered it for me).

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Wipe the rubber down with silicone lube. That'll take care of the sticking part of it.
You'd think, but strangely it didn't! Not sure what it is with this paint, but even the door seals exhibit this sticking issue to a small degree, even with 303 protectant and new seals.
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Old 06-03-2020, 03:00 PM   #16
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Excursions have one pop-out side window on each side of the body, similar to many minivans, and sometimes the windows will stick so bad to the window seals that the actuator motors cannot even open the windows at all. Someone on another forum (Ford-Trucks?) recommended the product below to me years ago and I haven't any problems since. I probably apply it every 6-9 months as a preventative measure.


Gummi Pflege (from Germany)


https://www.amazon.com/nextzett-9148.../dp/B075MKR3LR




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Old 06-03-2020, 03:26 PM   #17
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Good suggestion. I found the same recommendation for Gummi-Pfleger but ended up with a different brand (not sure if it matters or not?):

https://www.amazon.com/Sonax-0340100...dp/B01GS3EIIC/

I had already applied a different seal treatment, so the Gummi-Pfleger is sitting on the counter waiting until the other stuff wears off a bit.

The UHMW tape worked wonders on the pop-top and even lets the gasket "slide" into place a bit as it drops the final bit, so no complaints even though it was pricey. Kind of a pain to apply and long-term durability (of the adhesive) remains to be seen, but I'm happy for now.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:02 PM   #18
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Was having the same problem with the gasket on our CCV top. Went to Home Depot and got some contact cement. Has worked great. No more saggy gasket.
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Old 06-05-2020, 12:43 PM   #19
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Was having the same problem with the gasket on our CCV top. Went to Home Depot and got some contact cement. Has worked great. No more saggy gasket.
Larrie, just some kind of contact cement? Any concerns about the seal sticking ďtoo hardĒ when it comes time to replace?

My auto parts store up the street carries that 3M 08008. Iím gonna take a look at it too.
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Yes, any contact cement at HD. Have no idea it it will come off easily if I ever change the gasket.
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