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Old 05-15-2019, 10:17 AM   #1
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7.3 4x4 Chateau- What's it worth?

Found this...somewhere....and wondering what you guys think a fair offer would be.

Specs:
1998
7.3 diesel
Chateau with the good seats
313,000 miles!
Salem Kroger 4x4 conversion and new trans done in 2006

They are asking $20k, which seems steep to me given that its a 98 with 313k on it. However, I think the color is cool and its a CA van so little rust.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:47 AM   #2
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This made the rounds on here a few months ago. Given the mileage and low amount of "others" included 15 - 20 is not bad. I think there was a bit of question around who did the 4x4 conversion, how recent, what components etc. This would be the biggest determining factor to me. Keep in mind that your average 4x4 conversion is 15 - 20k depending on parts and who does the work etc. In my experience there is a base price around that for a van with a well done conversion that I rarely see undercut.

All that said, I would say 4k (2k book value 2k for the market value of the 7.3) for the van and 8k - 10k for the conversion assuming its got some mileage on it and maybe 2k for the chateau being a desirable thing .... I would start with 15k and see what he says. The fact that its been for sale for awhile works in your favor as well.
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:37 PM   #3
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Posted this van up here some time back. I don't remember the extra seats (2nd row capt chairs) being there. I don't think he had ever listed the mileage, think most of us figured the mileage would have been 150K for what he was asking.

I'd check the paint... looked very faded towards the rear & some rust at least on the trailer hitch... I'd be sure to check out the belly of the beast to make sure there aren't any unwanted surprises.

$20K- Seems like they are asking a lot, and IIRC that was our consensus... a month or two ago.

For what it is I might start at $13K and hope to end up at $15-16K. It's a 20 year old truck with 320K miles, if it doesn't have rust issues it has paint issues, and that "great interior" can likely be found for $1K from the local junk yard or fellow SMB forum member. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on that.

The van looked like it might have been being lived out of, but it's been so long since I've seen the ad I couldn't tell you for certain. S-K conversions also seem to be "individualized" conversions, and the company has since gone out/liquidated/changed-hands, and IIRC word of mouth is that the guys who were at S-K are now at a place called Whitefeather or something similar.

I'm presuming this "Somewhere" is the SD Craigslist....?

Edit: My posting here: http://www.sportsmobileforum.com/for...4x4-23726.html

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Old 05-15-2019, 01:54 PM   #4
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Going through the posts in here about the salem kroger conversion I have found most people thought they rode too harsh. Also, because they aren't as common as the quigley, they are harder to work with to get them to ride better. Hopefully I will be able to get down there this weekend to look at it and take it for a spin. I really don't care about the diesel, but I suppose I prefer 313k on a diesel than a gas motor.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:11 PM   #5
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I'm sitting here wondering what's peaked your interest enough to go down and even look at it...?

Sure, it's an odd teal color, but beyond that? He's already asking for a (in my opinion...)nonsensical premium for what it is ($20K for what's probably a $15-$17K van), and if you really don't care about the diesel motor being a 7.3L, there's probably another $3K or more premium in that by itself.

If you were looking for a gas van I'd be looking at '05+ (5R110 over 4R100) and be willing to throw an extra $5K at a V10 that's newer, less miles, and a Quigley/Agile conversion...

Just my $0.02, not that anyone asked for it. I would be interested in hearing more about this van if you go down to look at it, or if the owner was willing to compromise on price and it became an acquisition. There is someone up here by me selling an '08 6.0 Quigley for $33K. Think he dropped the price to $28 or so, 100K miles. It's only been for sale for 6+ months. Nice dark green color! ('Up here by me' meaning SF Bay... home for summer).
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:19 PM   #6
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You actually hit the nail on the head. There is a guy in your area asking $10k more for a van that is better.

Mostly, I am looking for something on the cheaper end of the spectrum that is a passenger van. I like the chateau because I only need the first few seats and I like the flexibility of captains chairs. In SoCal, these vans are so hard to find that pretty much anything becomes interesting. This is 4x4 already and the van that I like. I just want to know if I'm totally off base with a $10-15k price in mind. This has been for sale for a while, so if they are serious, they might take it.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:38 PM   #7
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Well... if you have the luxury of time (To wait for the right deal to swing by), and they aren't willing to budge... I am pretty sure that there are much better deals to be had. Seen some nice vans come up for sale in Tx, although with the handful of floods they have there I always have that worry running around in the back of my mind, even for supposedly "clean title" vans.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:39 PM   #8
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Time is definitely on my side. Location isn't, but I'm always game for a good road trip to pick up a van.
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:52 PM   #9
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There was a 2005-ish EB Passenger van on Ebay a while back... 1-owner Quig w/ 6.0, 75K mi, $25K iirc. I'll see if I can get the link still.. was in Kansas.
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:11 PM   #10
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@Gramps you have seen these.... maybe?

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ws...873940853.html
& https://lincoln.craigslist.org/cto/d...878480386.html
& https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d...870960225.html

Interested in those?
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