Originally Posted by Grampswrx
The difference between quigley and agile is the ride. Agile does a lot of business selling “ride improvement kits” for quigley. Think about that for a second- there’s a cottage industry that exists because quigleys ride is harsh. The agile conversion fixes that from the get go. Agile”s TTB kit works much better in higher speed, Baja conditions like we have here in CA. If you’re on technical trails, a solid axle is better so quigley wins there. Most of us spend 90% of our time on pavement, so a better ride matters. Quigley is good, agile is better.
Maybe I'm being fussy at the fine details, but what's the difference in cost for the 4wd conversion? I realize that it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but I've heard people ballpark $1K for the RIP suspension, and I'm certain that Agile is not pocketing all of that. Isn't the kit four Fox shocks and two front springs? Assuming Agile pays @$150/ea they're only pocketing $100-200 for tuning them up and shipping them out. I think I was looking at some Bilstein stuff that was like $200/shock (It was a while back, don't remember exactly what they were).
My guess is that Quigley gets all the contracts for commercial application (DEA, BP, I think I've even seen these as FedEx/UPS vehicles, resort vehicles, etc etc), and it's likely because they are undercutting competition at a rate that isn't insignificant.
Not knowing what Agile costs, I think I saw paperwork saying a Quigley conversion was about $10-12K, my guess is that you could grab the Agile suspension and in the end the conversion cost would end up being about the same.
... FWIW.. I've driven in 4wd @ 55+ In the snow, 50+ on gravel/unpaved roads & at a decent rate through slick (but not deep) mud. Haven't done any sand driving, but I've always liked the solid front axle and all-manual transfer case (I have heard the occasional bad thing about electronic/push-button transfer cases giving issues). It's never let me down and I've never got stuck (yet...
That said, most all of the miles I do are freeway driving from Bozeman to Oakland. I would wholeheartedly agree, that the Quigley doesn't have the nicest ride. I've found that it reacts especially poor to anything that is sudden or jolting, such as curbs, speed bumps, washboard & potholes.
I still remember when my dad nearly put my head through the roof of the van when he hit an unmarked speedbump covered with dirt from neighborhood road construction...