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Old 07-02-2015, 07:44 PM   #1
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2009 PSD engine failure on the road

We are on our second transcontinental trip in our 2009 Ford E350 super duty diesel with 100,00 miles. We bought the van used a year ago and have converted it to a home built camper. On our first trip from New York to Arizona with a factory service when it began stuttering uphill, would not accelerate, one error code (? 2209 ICP monitor something ?) but resolved after being stopped at a rest stop for 15 min. We later took it into a diesel mechanic in NY who could not figure out what was wrong, but thought it might have something to do with the fuel system. They couldn't reproduce the condition. He removed the fuel filters and saw residue that he thought looked abnormal for being so new. He said that the fuel pressure was OK. They put it back together, I drove it 1000 miles without any issue. However, tonight, after having driven 200 miles with a car in tow, while going uphill, the van lost would t accelerate, speed dropped to 45. With the pedal to the floor, it would decelerate but not go faster then completely lost power, the engine shut off and the revs dropped to zero. We coasted to a stop,kept it off for 15 min and then restarted it without a problem. Running fine now but have no idea what the issue is.

Looking for any advice, TSB's, anyone with similar issues?
Will keep you posted.
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:21 PM   #2
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

The van made it 70 miles with full power and no hickups. I feel like this has to be a fuel issue or some sort of electrical shot snice she rus so well adter start in back up. We have 1745 more miles to go...

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Old 07-02-2015, 10:03 PM   #3
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

Could be a fuel tank issue - check the filter again for residue from the tank lining.
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:07 AM   #4
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

We made it through the night ok. About 900 miles without issue but I was stopping every 200-300 miles and shutting her of for a few mins.
Driving along the flats of Oklahoma we had a loss of power (wouldn't go above 55mph) and there was a picture of a wrench on the instrument cluster. No error codes or CEL. Pulled over and shut her down for 10 mins. Running fine for now. Fluids are all still good, nothing abnormal on the factory temp guages. This is easily becoming the most stressful xc trip I have ever done. 1100 miles to go...
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Old 07-03-2015, 09:02 AM   #5
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

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and there was a picture of a wrench on the instrument cluster.
A year ago we were going through Nevada on our way to Kansas when the wrench showed up on the instrument cluster. I had been noticing the temp. range between the engine oil and the coolent were getting further apart (on my scan guage). I knew that wasn't good. I nursed it along never letting the temps get more than about 20 degrees apart (I knew it shouldn't be more than 15 degrees). No codes were showing up on the scan guage so I stopped at an auto parts store and they put there guage on and the code for problems with the oil cooler showed up (I can't remember the code number). I made an appointment at the Ford dealer in Salina Kansas. They did find the oil cooler was plugging up. They got right on it and 2 days later we were back on the road with a new oil cooler.
Great dealership, they bent over backwards for me.

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Old 07-03-2015, 11:23 AM   #6
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

How important is it to keep pushing on through like you've been?

There a lot of relatively simple problems on the 6.0 that can cascade into a series of failures that end in a totally blown motor that isn't even a good for a block core.
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Old 07-03-2015, 11:44 AM   #7
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

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Could be a fuel tank issue - check the filter again for residue from the tank lining.
See my experience with a PSD steel fuel tank:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/11837 ... -tank.html

Oh, yeah, one more thing. You are no longer driving cross-country.

You either have the Buddha nature to stop, investigate, and deal with whatever is your current reality, or you will suffer the mental anquish which comes from denying reality.

Life has changed your plans. (And in fact your adventure might actually be better if you are open to the possibilities that present themselves...)

So, you are going to deal with reality and stop, drop and inspect your tank (and possibly replace it). Or you are going to be stupid like I was and drive your van until you ruin it like I did.

Either way, you are no longer driving xc.

(It's kinda like the Indian who after a peyote trip to view the being of Johnny Depp in the movie "Deadwood," asked him who killed him when Johnny replied "I am not killed." But of course he was, the infection caused by the bullet had just not finished its work yet...)

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Old 07-03-2015, 05:10 PM   #8
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

If you are having a fuel issue (low pressure, plugged filter, FICM issues, etc.) or a voltage issue you are playing with fire. Any of those issue can cause injectors to fail. 1 injector ~ $2000 to replace. Oh, not to mention the day of shop time or the 3-10 days waiting to get into the shop.

You need to find a competent tech with proper computer software to diagnose a 6.0 PSD. Believe it or not I've had good luck with Ford dealers and poor luck with other shops.

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Old 07-03-2015, 11:22 PM   #9
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

Well Frostygirl Joined SMB forum: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:25 pm
She Last visited 20 minutes later: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:45 pm
Her Total posts to date are: 1

Watermann86 Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:43 pm
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So neither of them have seen our posts on the fuel tank issue.

Let's send a prayer out there for her and watermann86 that they are not stuck on the side of the road, and that they are safe.
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:03 AM   #10
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Re: 2009 PSD engine failure on the road

I have personally seen 2 6.0 van fuel tanks delaminate. One was caught in time before any damage was done, the other needed fuel pump, filter and injectors.

I thought this problem was over with the 7.3's
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