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Old 02-12-2015, 07:09 PM   #41
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

We have a diagnosis! Somehow a socket wrench socket got lost inside the bell housing. Or maybe it was wedged onto a bolt and left for dead. At the exact moment I happened to be rolling up my off ramp, it got loose and wedged between the torque converter and bell housing, smashing things up nicely and locking the driveshaft. Or something. The photo is from my mechanic and I haven't been to see it in person yet. The broken bell housing faces upward so no one could see it until the tranny was pulled out.

Bottom line, the engine is fine but the transmission is not.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:32 PM   #42
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

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Engines don't just seize... there needs to be a better assessment than that for you.
k2orbust: Is that guy a credit to this forum or what?

Question: Why doesn't the cracked bell housing show in your pictures above?

So, just to be clear there was a socket left in the bell housing? If so, might be time to talk to the insurance company of the company who did that work. Not for warranty which may or may not be transferable, but for negligence. If it were a scalpel left in a patient, I believe that the lawyers call that type of negligence proof "res ipsa loquitor."

Dude seriously call John Wood before you buy somebody else's transmission. Talk to him, I believe he gives a life time guarantee and you are in his neck of the "woods" anyway. And it would be sweet if you could get the transmission company's insurance or bond to pay for some or all of it. Couple of url's for you:

http://www.autorepair.ca.gov

http://www.jwtt.com
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:55 PM   #43
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

Cell phone pictures are inherently crappy, but I think we could be looking at the crack here.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:58 PM   #44
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

Yes, I see and then it came apart when removed! Well now I feel better about the 5.8L in my Bronco. BTW I am replacing the fuel pump in it now. I don't know when yours was replaced last if ever but my guess is that the one that carringb sourced will also apply to your tank.

And are you sure that your transmission is toast? A good welder who can tig aluminum might be able to fix that... Save money if you can. Or do it right with jw if you have to replace it.

Congratulations!
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:22 PM   #45
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

That's crazy! What bad luck. At least you know the PO didn't try to put one over on you.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:11 PM   #46
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

Well, I was barking up the right tree... not that it is any consolation to you though.

I'm glad the engine is fine as a rebuilt transmission is much less costly and not really a bad thing to have done with the mileage you had.

I'm flying back to San Diego on Tuesday, and I had a E4OD, from a similar vintage F-Series, that is completely rebuilt with all upgrades and only has a few thousand miles on it in the shop when I left a month or so ago. If you are interested in it I can see if we still have it and confirm with our trany guy that it will work - might need a valve body swap at the very most. This was a $3,600 trany that we took out when we did a swap to a Chevy BB and TH400 for a customer - he left it with us.

Let me know.

Sorry I didn't get your call the other day - I have been real sick with the flu. Lost 17 pounds since Sunday, but finally feeling better. Actually had dinner tonight.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:03 AM   #47
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

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And are you sure that your transmission is toast? A good welder who can tig aluminum might be able to fix that... Save money if you can. Or do it right with jw if you have to replace it.

Congratulations!
I once broke a C6 bellhousing, taking a chunk out of it similar to this unfortunate damage. Took a bit of shopping different specialty welding shops to find the right one. Finally found the one who had done similar work before, results were nearly perfect.

Mind you this was back in the 70's so the cost of $40 was fairly dear money then. Its entirely possible to repair the trans housing and save the expense of full replacement if that's not in the budget at this time.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:54 AM   #48
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

You're getting some good advice over at ford-trucks.com
I agree with JWA.
Call your local Airco (AirCoweldingservices.com) or ther welding supply shop and tell them you have a "mission critical" aluminum welding repair and although you guess that they don't like to discriminate between their customers, you will keep their recommendation quiet, you need the absolute best tig welder for the job, so who do they recommend? Who would they use if they themselves had a repair for something which failure is not an option?
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:04 AM   #49
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

I'm plumbing the vehicle's service history for the last shop to touch the transmission. I have records for a rebuild in 2001 (at 48k miles), but the mechanic doesn't think it can be that old. Something fishy...
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Re: New motor for a '94 E350?

Yep, a rebuild of the original E4OD within 5 years of new with only 48K miles. That is an E4OD for you. That is why I would just: 1. weld up your existing bell housing and drive with that tranny until it fails; or 2. buy Baja's E4OD if the price is reasonable; or 3. do it once do it right and never do it again with a John Woods.

Re the old shop, make sure that your mechanic gives you the socket and takes photos of everything and writes up a diagnostic report for you and that you know the name of the tech who actually found it. I am sorry but a small claims court action seems in order here. Just sayin'...
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