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Old 12-11-2015, 11:30 PM   #11
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Here's the full list of x-gauges I programmed into my scangaugeII for my 02 7.3



Coolant Temp:
TXD: C410F1221139
RXF: 046205110639
RXD Engine: 3008
MTH: 00010002007F
NAM: ect

The value displayed by this XGauge is only valid after the coolant temperature gets above 127* F. Before the engine is warmed up the displayed value will go up to 255 about double actual then starts over at 127. This is becasue this PID is scaled for two different ranges. This has been a long sought after xgauge for the 7.3 crowd for quite some time.


Glow Plug Percent:
TXD: C410F1221430
RXF: 046205140630
RXD: 3008
MTH: 0F5127100000
NAM: gp%

This is a good way to see how long your glow plugs are staying on. They will stay on for quite a while after the engine is running and the glow plug (wait to start) light has gone out.


Engine Oil Temp:
TXD: C410F1221310
RXF: 046205130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000901F4FFFD8
NAM: EOT


IPR Duty Cycle:
TXD: C410F1221434
RXF: 046205140634
RXD: 3008
MTH: 006400FF0000
NAM: IPR


Injection Control Pressure:
TXD: C410F1221446
RXF: 046205140646
RXD: 3010
MTH: 003800640000
NAM: ICP


Exhuast Back Pressure:
TXD: C410F1221445
RXF: 046205140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 016C03E80000
NAM: EBP


Transmission Fluid Temp:
TXD: C410F1221674
RXF: 046205160674
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100080000
NAM: TFT
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:28 AM   #12
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Would these programming specs work on an Ultraguage as well? I also have one of those.

Thanks
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:18 AM   #13
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I added the same transmission cooler that Badger trek did (I forget the part number thought), and last week I put on the Mag-Hytec aluminum transmission pan http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com//...KGUhoCbrnw_wcB

It added a spot for a 3/8" NPT fitting and temp gauge, does anyone have any recommendations for a good gauge?
I've read that the Scanguage using the PID actually reads a bit cooler because of where the sensor is located. Not sure if that is true or not but I cooked my fluid pretty good going over Imogene the day before I ran into you in Ouray.

Mu understanding is the Tru-Cool cooler that Badger used replaces the existing cooler and then uses the OEM tranny cooler to preplace the power steering cooler.

Not sure what the best option is with an aluminess bumper in the way but the Derale atomic fan/cooler that Carl used is another option. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/der-13950

I'm currently weighing the pros and cons to either swap. And also whether to install a separate TFT guage to add to the autometer pyro and fuel pressure gauges that I already have.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:04 AM   #14
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Just had Strictly Diesel in PHX add a Tru-Cool Tranny cooler to our 02 7.3 w Aluminess bumper and stock grill.

I had previously cut the lower plastic piece between the radiator and the bumper and secured the cut flap it so it scoops air now. Strongly considering the 06 style lower plastic scoop. May have a problem with the front hitch though.

The scoop mod did not seem do too much. The new Tranny cooler did ALOT. Installed it was arnd $500. Temps are now in the 130 to 140 range per SGauge2 TFT. Dropped temps by about 25 to 30 degs.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:10 AM   #15
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JOEH: I've read that the Scanguage using the PID actually reads a bit cooler because of where the sensor is located. Not sure if that is true or not but I cooked my fluid pretty good going over Imogene the day before I ran into you in Ouray.

I have heard the opposite. hmmmm.... I was told the SG2 picksup the temp at the highest temp location since the OEM temp sensor is buried internally where it can read the highest temp location possible.All hearsay on my part so may be wrong.
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Old 12-12-2015, 11:08 AM   #16
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JOEH: I've read that the Scanguage using the PID actually reads a bit cooler because of where the sensor is located. Not sure if that is true or not but I cooked my fluid pretty good going over Imogene the day before I ran into you in Ouray.

I have heard the opposite. hmmmm.... I was told the SG2 picksup the temp at the highest temp location since the OEM temp sensor is buried internally where it can read the highest temp location possible.All hearsay on my part so may be wrong.
Yeah, my bad. I found the thread. According to carringb the PCM monitors the inside valve body which could be hotter than the pan reading. The entire thread is worth a read but scroll to post #s 138-140. http://www.sportsmobileforum.com/for...t=2607&page=14

Also of note, is figuring out exactly what is hot? I routinely am over 200F but slow 4wd and can easily hit 250F. That's why the additional cooler with a fan makes sense but fans can also stop working and then what.
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Old 12-12-2015, 05:21 PM   #17
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I've been using the Edge Insight since 2011. When I contacted Edge about it they said it wasn't really made for the E Series but that I could return it if it didn't work out. It's been great. HOWEVER I have heard rumors to never update it because it will loose most of its functionality on a van. IDK. It plugs into the OBD2 port and reads from the ECM sensor that's in the trans valve body.


Ignore the arrow, it's from a different topic.

When I got my van (used) in 2010 the transmission that came with it is suspected to not be the original and not right. That trans was hot like lava all the time. 225-240 highway driving and 250 on a slow dirt road. After a year or so the torque converter wouldn't lock and put the trans into burnt eruption. When that happened in Blythe, at midnight, in 101 degrees, covered in burning ATF, I rethought my life.

So this is the new, as of 2011 new, set up.


I took this photo to actually share the sad state of my off road lights.

John Wood 5r110 Transmission (John installed it and did some programming)
Schaeffer's All Trans fluid. (John said,"use it and no questions")
Tru Cool Max 45k btu cooler (I was trying to copy BadgerTrek)
12v Fan behind the cooler re-purposed from the 80's off an old 4x4 I had. I don't know the brand or size. Maybe 10" but powerful and loud. Fan is controlled by a 180' thermostat plumbed into the inlet of the cooler.
Hood louvers installed this summer which helps everything especially A/C
Just a note the path of the trans fluid is still through the radiator heat exchanger then through the Tru Cool then back to the trans.

Now my trans temps are way cooler. Around town/highway/up Vail Summit it's 160' (trans thermostat open temp) to 180. Highest I've seen this set up was 196 which was up a grade, 96 degrees outside, pulling a 5k lb trailer. I hear the trans fan cycle on at 164' on the gauge so the fluid entering the Tru Cool must be warmer than where the sensor for the ECM is.
Anyway, sorry for the long reply. My story is no mater what way you decide is best for you, Monitor those trans temps! And I feel anything prolonged over 200 degrees is asking a lot of your ATF.
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Old 12-13-2015, 06:01 PM   #18
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ert01 - thanks for posting your x-gauges. I added the coolant temp gauge today. I may add a few others. I then need to figure out what the normal readings for these are.

I double checked my TFT settings and they are the same as yours. For whatever reason this one does not work for me. I get nothing from the scanguage II.

When and if I change my tranny pan I may add a gauge for this.
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:58 AM   #19
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For trans temp, I prefer a good old analog gauge with a sender in the test port. This give you a good average fluid temp and should correspond to pan temp. The OBD channel pulls from the valve body which sometimes is not as hot as the pan fluid, although it does climb much faster like when backing. So.... Could show hotter or cooler, but I think the pan/test port temp is more useful because it takes time and temperature to damage the fluid. Now that I have an ultra gauge I'm surprised how often it reads cooler than the test port. Basically, if both are hot and climbing, bad news. If ones hot and the other isn't hot yet, probably have a few minutes still. If one's hot and the other is dropping than I don't worry about it at all.

I have the Banks gauge because I like the simple color coding, and you can easily tell if it's rising or falling.
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I added the same transmission cooler that Badger trek did (I forget the part number thought), and last week I put on the Mag-Hytec aluminum transmission pan Mag-Hytec 5R110 Transmission Pan 03-07 6.0L Ford Powerstroke

It added a spot for a 3/8" NPT fitting and temp gauge, does anyone have any recommendations for a good gauge?
I like the idea of an independent gage as well. if you haven't found a transmission temp gage this is what autometer recommended to me. It gives a higher reading than 250F but doesn't say transmission oil, just “oil”, but is the correct range. It also uses 1/8” NPT for the sender. http://www.autometer.com/2-oil-temp-...-z-series.html

I'm also curious how this mod finished up. Do you feel like the Mag-Hytec aluminum transmission pan sits too low? I'm thinking of doing this but leery of rock strikes. I guess the differentials are quite a bit lower but getting high centered would be the worry.

Any tips for the Tru Max that Badger did? Sounds like it is a more or less direct bolt on with maybe having to had two lower brackets. Did you add a fan as well?
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