Thanks for the input y'all, the more I get into it, it seems that there are a very vocal few that are bashing CCV, I def don't want to let that kind of bias steer me in a direction that isn't right for me. I am actually going to meet up with 1der tomorrow and check out the CCV operation first hand, having followed Derek's progression from his hobby prototype to full fledged business it seems that he deserves a fair shake.