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12-07-2011, 12:23 PM
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RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
All,
Gave up my daily driver to my mother-in-law and my EB Chevy is not really fitting that bill as a daily driver, so thinking about selling it in favor of an RB.
We have a deposit on an '04 RB50 SMB 4x4 6.0 PSD on the SMB Texas site. ~200k miles on the rig  , engine was replaced in '09 (still stock), has ~50k miles on it. Interior of the van is completely redone by SMB Texas for the resale at request of PO. I am aware of concerns with the PSD but I like the engine in spite of those but don't have any personal experience other than friends and reading posts here. Really like the SMB 4x4 conversion. Also, drivetrain has been rebuilt (except for front axle) over the last 2 years.
I am curious to know if anyone feels strongly one way or another about whether the van is worth committing a few $k to upgrading the rear diff and axle (has semi-floater) as well as putting ARP studs and deleting the EGR in the engine. I most likely would put a few hundred k miles on it daily driving, towing (10k#) and multiple long Baja trips every year. Resale at that level is not really a concern for me (within reason) if I can use the van, so the current mileage is not really material to me as long as I can get another couple hundred k miles out of it.
6.0 owners, would you buy one again? A friend of mine would in spite of EGR/oil cooler problems ('04 F350), would love to know if others share this feeling.
Would love to hear thoughts, always extremely impressed with the level of detail and knowledge here.
Thanks,
Steve
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12-07-2011, 12:43 PM
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
A stock van 6.0 doesn't need head studs to be reliable. Even stock F-Series PU's don't need studs, but modified engines (over 350HP) do need them. At 235HP the van is not subject to that level of stress.
An EGR delete (not just a block-off) will be beneficial if your state inspections allow it.
For the most part, a stock van 6.0 is pretty reliable. Don't idle it for long periods, change oil regularly, monitor FICM voltage, change fuel filters and only use OEM or Racor filters and you should be good to go.
And, a 6.0 can run on Mexican diesel.
Mike
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12-07-2011, 12:53 PM
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RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
https://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/Articles.asp?ID=342
Consider an ERG replace. Concur on the bolts. Monitor oil and coolant temps per recommendations posted all over the place.
Yes. I would purchase again.
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12-07-2011, 06:52 PM
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Location: AVL NC
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
Good advice from these guys. EGR cooler delete if possible, EGT gauge, mild programmer, fuel filters every 10K, oil 5, (what I do, some do it different) and agree that the van shouldn't need head studs. What makes them blow head gaskets is EGR cooler failure.
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12-07-2011, 07:40 PM
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
I'd buy a 6.0L again. Honestly, I'd rather have the 7.3L, but I'd go with the 6.0L again.
I'm in California, so there's no way I was going to risk an EGR delete, but I did go with BulletProof Diesel's EGR Cooler.
Herb
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12-07-2011, 09:52 PM
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
Are you sure it is the SMB 4x4 conversion? You seem to imply that's important to you. I see that van on the Texas website. The high mileage must really bring down the value even with the 50K engine and fresh interior. I bet that is an interesting story on the engine replace. I personally would not buy another 6.0 because I do not trust it out in the boonies. I'm currently trying to decide whether to sell mine or "bulletproof" it along the lines of what has been mentioned here and with a reliable turbo and oil cooler.
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12-08-2011, 04:00 AM
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Location: Pasadena, CA
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford_6L_E350
A stock van 6.0 doesn't need head studs to be reliable. Even stock F-Series PU's don't need studs, but modified engines (over 350HP) do need them. At 235HP the van is not subject to that level of stress.
An EGR delete (not just a block-off) will be beneficial if your state inspections allow it.
For the most part, a stock van 6.0 is pretty reliable. Don't idle it for long periods, change oil regularly, monitor FICM voltage, change fuel filters and only use OEM or Racor filters and you should be good to go.
And, a 6.0 can run on Mexican diesel.
Mike
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Ditto. No power mods and regular maintenance seem to be a good combo. Our 6.0 has been the most reliable vehicle our family has ever owned.
R
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12-08-2011, 07:33 AM
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Location: Long Beach CA.
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
Does anyone have a suggestion on a shop in LA/OC California to have the bullet proofing done on a 6.0.
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12-08-2011, 08:04 AM
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
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12-09-2011, 03:44 PM
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Re: RB 6.0 Purchase Advice Sought
I am going to take the plunge. I go to Texas Monday. I would like to reiterate what's been said before in other posts, the folks at SMB Texas have been fantastic. Paul and Susan are great.
Thanks to those who posted for all of the thoughts and great advice. Head lugs are less likely but I most likely will forge ahead with the EGR and full floater in the rear, either 14 bolt or D70, but that's for another discussion.
Pat, yes, it is the SMB 4x4 conversion, which I like with the larger brakes and otherwise generally upper shelf components and engineering. With respect to mileage, yes, I feel it's a relative value for me with all drive components redone, but then again I am going to put lots of miles on it as a daily driver, so my view may be different than the average buyer. I plan to drive it into the ground.
Thanks again!
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