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Old 05-12-2020, 08:30 AM   #1
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trip advice coconino area

Hey Guys
Looking to get away for a few days with the fam. Heading to AZ coconino/sedona area. Looking for fun off the beaten path trails with camping on them. Preferably with a creek or lake.

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Old 05-12-2020, 08:51 AM   #2
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lots of the areas are closed right now, also all National Forests in AZ are in Fire Restriction now, so no campfires, charcoal grills, or target shooting. Plan appropriately for cooking etc.


Sedona is beautiful and the weather should be great right now.


If the Sedona area doesn't work out some dispersed camping is available not too far north closer to Flagstaff.
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Old 05-12-2020, 12:39 PM   #3
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We were on Mingus Mountain for a couple of days, came back yesterday. There is a lake, the parking lot was full, people were fishing. Being the lovely desert that Arizona is makes lakes and creeks hard to come by. Oak Creek is beautiful no camping of any kind now, never boondocking. Forest rd 525 south of Sedona is extremely popular but lacking in water or unbeaten paths. It's full of campers out there the fire restrictions don't keep too many away, it seems.
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Just came back from a wonderful AZ trip. We did Williams, Flagstaff, Sedona, Grand Canyon, and Route 66. There was a fire ban in effect everywhere but we cooked in our 91 SMB just fine. I have never seen the Kaibab Forest outside Williams as busy and packed. A lot of people fishing at DogTown Lake. Sedona was super busy. We went swimming in Sedona and then took the 17 back up to Flagstaff. We took the 180 to the South Rim entrance and camped at Service Road 328 (.8 Miles from South Rim Grand Canyon Entrance)
Great 6 days of getting out and exploring.
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Sounds like a great trip. We pretty much did the same. Williams to Sedona to sitgraves then to Tonto Apache lake. Never been so can't say on crowds but did not seem bad. We did come home before the big weekend. No fire thing was pretty lame.
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Sounds like a great trip. We pretty much did the same. Williams to Sedona to sitgraves then to Tonto Apache lake. Never been so can't say on crowds but did not seem bad. We did come home before the big weekend. No fire thing was pretty lame.

Not even close to lame. The USFS should ban campfires in the Coconino permanently and they largely have in the area surrounding Flagstaff.


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We are at the base of Mt Elden but traveling in Canada as our daughter-in-law was packing our valuables by phone. A dry summer and sparks from heavy equipment working in the forest. Wind, dry air and errant campfires have started so many forest fires.
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that is just lame to ban all campfires at all times. No one opposes restrictions when fire danger is high. We all know there are plenty of careless or uneducated people. However, when fire danger is low there is no reason to ban fires.
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that is just lame to ban all campfires at all times. No one opposes restrictions when fire danger is high. We all know there are plenty of careless or uneducated people. However, when fire danger is low there is no reason to ban fires.

Everyone has a right to their opinion and for some this smacks of over-reach by the gub'mint but I'll point out that currently the southwest is in a prolonged drought.


Besides human-caused wildfires, the restrictions were also put into place to lower the impacts of emergency response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Maybe you have never seen a fire camp but it's a germ factory with little hope for sanitation measures much less social distancing. That, and with all the people recreating in the forest much less communities that might need to evacuate on already busy arterial roads that become choke points is a valid concern.


Lastly, simply saying that fire danger is low is not correct. It is in fact quite high. Currently state II fire restrictions are in place. The forest service uses the energy release component as an indication of how dry the fuel load is for any specific location. It is indeed quite dry and I wouldn't be surprised to see closures implemented before the summer monsoon rains come in July. https://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/predictiv...s/Areawide.htm
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When we were there all the fire status signs we passed were showing LOW. Things may have changed since. Again as I said if circumstances justify a fire ban such as high risk, high wind etc no one is opposing that. However, its serious gov overreach and lazyness to ban fires permenently.
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