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11-03-2024, 08:02 AM
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Upgraded springs but keep stock height in front
Moog Coils for front and shock recommendations
2002 E350, 5.4, 2wd, stock suspension, do NOT want a lift when done with new coil, fiberglass high top, 265/70r/17 KO2s, minor fender cutting already done.
I am just looking to decrease the body roll some and replace the shocks. Also, increase ride quality would be a bonus. Mostly body roll is my main issue.
It already has sway bars front and rear.
I have been searching but it seems most everyone wants to also get a lift out of their replacements. I have read CC880S, C880S, CC880 and blah blah blah.
Just want a drop in replacement. Keep stock height as I want it level, as it is now, and don't want to get into the rear and replacing those leaves nor would I ever add blocks.
Any help?
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11-03-2024, 08:34 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: Harrington, WA
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Start with quality shock first, might be enough and they're on your list anyways.
Do you know your spring code? I'm not sure there is a stock height spring with an increased spring rate, that would usually result in an increase in height.
Maybe you could get a stiffer spring (one you mentioned above) and heat the coils some to drop it to your desire height? That used to be a common way to lower a vehicle, before they made drop springs for it.
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11-03-2024, 08:55 AM
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Location: San Francisco, CA
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What is the condition of all the sway bar bushings?
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Beastie 3: 2002 7.3 EB Cargo: Agile TTB, CCV High Top, Custom Walk Through, Lots of stuff added. www.BlingMyRig.com
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11-03-2024, 12:16 PM
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Location: Corvallis, OR
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#1 update you can do is swap in a 2008+ front axle. This gets rid of the through-axle sway-bar bushing which always develops slop and allows body roll before the sway bar even engages. If that’s not feasible right now, the moog poly bushings are a good compromise. But definitely consider it id you ever need new ball joints or new brakes. The cost of doing the axle swap is less than doing both of those repairs.
Monotube shocks will do the most for ride quality.
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11-07-2024, 11:36 AM
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Location: Longmont, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carringb
#1 update you can do is swap in a 2008+ front axle.
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I assume you're talking about 4WD? OP has a 2WD.
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2011 Ford E350 EB Quigley 4x4 'PUPLGUK' | V10 Gas | Opt Overland Pop Top | GBS LiFeMnPO4 100Ah
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11-07-2024, 12:15 PM
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How heavy is your front end? We have a fibreglass roof as well and the front axle weighs 1,560kg (~3,400lbs). Based on the front end weight, we replaced our stock springs (2002 E250 5.4L) with springs for the 7.3L diesel which has a similar weight to our 5.4L with fiberglass top.
We used NAPA springs 277-5474 (because I needed them locally last minute) but it's the same spring rate as the Moog CC81366. (The 880 and 880S series are for the previous generation vans. I think the CC81366 are similar to the 880's.)
Now, you said you don't want to lift it but if you're on stock springs with a fibreglass top you're probably running lower than stock. I can't remember the dimensions off the top of my head but with the diesel springs on our build, the height is stock again. We added some new Bilsteins at the same time and between the springs and shocks the ride was greatly improved with reduced roll.
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11-07-2024, 12:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: Harrington, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibo
I assume you're talking about 4WD? OP has a 2WD.
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I think he's referring to the beams.
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11-07-2024, 12:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Longmont, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kbeefy
I think he's referring to the beams.
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I think my brain was just hung up on the word "axle".
My van was already Quiglified when I bought it, so I'm not intimately familiar with the 2WD setup. Genuinely curious, does swapping the beams allow one to change the swaybar configuration? I've seen swaybars that go through the frame rails, vs. my configuration that has them clamped with bushings to the underside of the frame rails.
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11-08-2024, 05:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Corvallis, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibo
I think my brain was just hung up on the word "axle".
My van was already Quiglified when I bought it, so I'm not intimately familiar with the 2WD setup. Genuinely curious, does swapping the beams allow one to change the swaybar configuration? I've seen swaybars that go through the frame rails, vs. my configuration that has them clamped with bushings to the underside of the frame rails.
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The 2WD vans have a front axle too. So too all cars….
Yes, I was referring to the 2WD axle. The sway bars end on the 2008+ vans use actual end-links. All E-series sway-bars are mounted to the underside of the frame rails.
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