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86Scotty 08-18-2013 05:37 PM

Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Meet Rusty everyone!

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...43b67305e3.jpg

I'm now an actual, bonafide SMB owner! I just brought this forgotten fella home from Pittsburgh today. Yes, some close watchers might have assumed, but it was me who bought this one posted in the classifieds a couple weeks ago. I didn't want to speak before the deal was completely done.

I now own an RB10 with 21,700 original miles. It was basically left for dead by the first owner on Long Island at his beach house, and it looks like it too, especially underneath. The body is in great shape actually, just in need of a good buff and polish. The frame is covered with surface rust, but at only 21K it's really a mixed bag under there. Things like the block/tranny/main fuel tank look brand new, and thinner things like SMB bracketry, propane tanks, shocks and springs look pretty bad, but it drives GREAT! I drove it 500 miles home yesterday and today and spent the first night in it last night. Actually, all 4 of us did. It has a huge stack of receipts and paperwork for a vehicle with only 21K, I'm pretty sure I have every record down to the zip tie and every manual for every appliance. Very complete and kept up with for a vehicle which was neglected like it was, kind of weird.
I have lots of questions (about actual SMBs since I'm a homebrewer primarily), so bear with me as I learn about this toy.
It's a 95 with a 460/e40D. It's DAMN strong, since it's basically not even broken in yet. I averaged 12MPG through mountains over 1.5 tanks home, which I'm sure is what I can expect to get out of it forever. I'm just glad it wasn't less. Coming from a 5.4 it's really nice to have some torque, and only about 2 mpg less.
It is a SMB West conversion, bought at a dealer in Clovis, has Alan Feld's name on the original build sheet which I have. Neat stuff.
It has some interesting tidbits like dual fuel tanks, aftermarket rear AC (which works awesome as does the front air), NO fridge for some reason, a very noisy and very useless 'roof rack' (see pic) which I will be removing tomorrow. It's WAY loud at freeway speed with those useless chrome hoops on the front of the PH. I originally thought it had Starcool but was wrong, just aftermarket rear air conditioning. It has dual batteries under the couch and not on the frame. 4WD system works fine. I feel pretty sure this thing would pull my house off it's foundation in 4 low with the 460. It has 4 popout windows which is nice. The rears had screws through them from the factory and had apparently never been opened before last night.
Oh, did I mention rust? The spare rack on the rear is about to rust off, the aux tank is hanging by a thread since the strapping holding it on was too thin before rust ate it, and I have a raingutter which looks really good except for about 2 feet, which is so bad I will have to take it to a body shop to reshape. I think it must have sat under a gutterspout or something there. Also, the propane door is missing. I will post more pics soon.

Sorry to be so long winded but I'm pretty excited about this little project. I still have Tryptovan (and 3 other vehicles she keeps reminding me of) and I'm not sure which I will eventually sell. The plan for now is to experiment with camping in this one over the winter while I fix it up a little, starting with the purchase of a sandblaster, and we will decide which van to keep next Spring. Offers on either of my vans are welcome but I'm probably not going to change this plan unless an offer is pretty good.

I will post more pics later. It's too dirty inside to show anyone right now.

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Ford_6L_E350 08-18-2013 05:46 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
First, congratulations!

Now, what do you do with Big Blue, and by big I mean the top?

Hope to see you and your new rig on the road someday.

Mike

daveb 08-18-2013 06:23 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Good for you, looks like a great deal. Is your other van a 4x4?

Gnarvan 08-18-2013 06:41 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
What happened did you run out of things to change on Tryptovan? Your wife must be a very understanding person. I think it's time to buy a couple of motorcycles. :a1:

We NEED more :i2: :i2: :i2:

SCBrian 08-18-2013 06:51 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Looks great! Congratulations.

BrianW 08-18-2013 07:24 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Congrats! Looks really clean up top! Good luck with the smaller things underneath. For the price it was listed at, it's sure worth some work. Nice color, too.

For the missing propane door on the driver's side, you can get them from the Sportsmobile Store. See them listed here: https://www.sportsmobilestore.com/parts/ ... red&page=4

twogone 08-18-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
:a4: This is gonna be fun!

86Scotty 08-18-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daveb
Good for you, looks like a great deal. Is your other van a 4x4?

Thanks. No, unfortunately it is not. I have the perfect van, just in two pieces. I wish I could meld them together somehow, but too many differences since the years are too far apart.

86Scotty 08-18-2013 07:28 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnarvan
What happened did you run out of things to change on Tryptovan? Your wife must be a very understanding person. I think it's time to buy a couple of motorcycles. :a1:

We NEED more :i2: :i2: :i2:

You guessed it! Yes, she is. Motorcycles. I've had about 10. I can't really enjoy them with the kids, and I have a tendency to ride them fast, which as you know doesn't go well with the job.

I'll probably get one again after they are grown.

86Scotty 08-18-2013 07:29 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Thanks all, now the question is, Can we fit 4 and our gear in an RB? You know, if Mama ain't happy......................

Pschitt 08-18-2013 08:11 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Really pleased for you, seems to be a good deal... Congrat.

buckkiller 08-18-2013 10:33 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Wow nice score bud, can't wait to hear your thoughts on both pop tops.
Buck
The Redneck Mexican
2002 E350 7.3 PSD 4x4 8inch lift pop top conversion....

Ocsmb 08-19-2013 12:17 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Congrats!

What a deal too.

my3kids 08-19-2013 07:31 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Nice! And a 460 too! Welcome to the 2 van club.

Ray
06 E350 RB PH
06 E350 RB Quigley V10

Carl 08-19-2013 01:13 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Congratulations!

86Scotty 08-20-2013 03:31 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Got some great news on Rusty today. I pulled a rear hub cap and look what I found underneath!

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...c4fedb6344.jpg

A full floater!

Also, I've begun the cleanup process from the top down, literally. The roof had never been scrubbed, and really needs paint as a result, and the PH got a good scrub in and out. Warm soapy water did a heck of a job there, and Shout! worked great on the stains with no apparent ill effects. I pulled the small cabinet by the door and look how abused the carpet was (in 20 thousand miles). Unfreakenbelievable. Out it must come.

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...5d749a81f4.jpg

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BrianW 08-20-2013 06:49 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Any chance this van was partially under water at some point, given its Long Island provenance?

86Scotty 08-20-2013 07:05 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Well, it had a clean Carfax and all electronics seem to be fine. My theory is that the original owner just didn't care and left it parked at a beach house for years with the side pop-out windows open most of the time. Rusty snaps, screws etc near the windows seem to confirm this. As for water damage otherwise it seems impossible. Other parts of the van are so clean it looks as to have never been touched. It is a mystery but I have great plans for it. The carpet is the biggest mystery of all. There is no smell, no evidence of pets, no smoke stains, no mildew. Just wicked dirty carpet. I don't really dig carpet in vans, or campers for this reason.

rionapo 08-20-2013 07:54 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Looks like Rusty found a good home.

carringb 08-20-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
You might want to check out that drum brake hardware buried under that rusty wheel! I'll bet there isn't much left of those return springs, and I'd be even more surprised if the adjuster still turns. You might just find yourself some extra braking power trapped within all that rust!

copescobra 08-20-2013 09:32 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Friends that restore old mustangs boast about how well "rust bullet" and "pro 15" work for stopping all rust issues and easy to apply. The "rust bullet" product has a great web site and tutorials to view.
It might be just the thing to do, inexpensive and you can coat the whole underside.

Regardless of the issues with "RUSTY" I think it is a killer score.

Living vicariously while I am out of commission for a while.

Keep the posts coming.

larrie 08-20-2013 10:09 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Sweet find. Was at the beach the last two weeks relaxing but not with the SMB. Had my propane grille with me and saw that the un painted metal nuts around the burner knobs started to rust. It does not take long for salt air to do its thing.

Gnarvan 08-20-2013 10:18 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
:i2: Jeep..... :i2: Jeep.....Who's got a :i2: Jeep?

BajaSportsmobile 08-20-2013 10:51 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larrie
Sweet find. Was at the beach the last two weeks relaxing but not with the SMB. Had my propane grille with me and saw that the un painted metal nuts around the burner knobs started to rust. It does not take long for salt air to do its thing.

We live a half block from the beach - the stainless flatware rusts in the drawer. Rust never sleeps!

86Scotty 08-22-2013 03:42 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carringb
You might want to check out that drum brake hardware buried under that rusty wheel! I'll bet there isn't much left of those return springs, and I'd be even more surprised if the adjuster still turns. You might just find yourself some extra braking power trapped within all that rust!

I plan to soon, but the brakes were all done about a year ago. This thing has had a good bit of maintenance done. I was just looking through records today. It's had a steering box, brakes and all tune up stuff within the last year. Then it sat in a field for a year, hence the cobwebs etc. under the hubcaps. It's also just had tires. AC wasn't blowing cold when I picked it up so I headed to the store and got 3 cans of freon, one oil and one leak seal. Ice cold air front and rear since then.

In other news, I did a lot of cleaning on it today. I'm almost positive that no one had EVER cleaned the inside of the windows. I uncovered the batteries too. Nice Carquest Nautilus group 27 deep cells, 2 of em, with Dec. 2002 stickers on them and about a golf ball size wad of corrosion on each terminal. They are under the passenger bench but will be rerouted to the frame very soon.

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86Scotty 08-26-2013 05:50 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
OK, so what do you guys think I need to look closely at under a 1995 Quigley with only 21K miles? I'm noob on 4x4 stuff, but can tell you this thing rides a lot better than my 2002 2wd, and tons better than my 1992 Chateau did. I'm soon going to purchase a sandblaster to start cleaning up the surface rust underneath and see what needs to be replaced, but everything works great! Should I worry about axle fluids, u-joints, plugs etc. on a 21K van? I'm not sure what to look for 4x4 specific. I will be doing coolant, tranny fluid and other fluids before I put many miles on it. It was checked out by a mechanic who I spoke to personally. He said other than the rust under it (mostly just surface rust) mechanically it looked and felt pretty good. I may just be a little paranoid because I know from experience a vehicle which has sat is almost always worse than one that has been used a lot, regardless of miles. I'm kind of unsure what might need to be replaced just from sitting.

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chromisdesigns 08-26-2013 07:13 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 86Scotty
OK, so what do you guys think I need to look closely at under a 1995 Quigley with only 21K miles? I'm noob on 4x4 stuff, but can tell you this thing rides a lot better than my 2002 2wd, and tons better than my 1992 Chateau did. I'm soon going to purchase a sandblaster to start cleaning up the surface rust underneath and see what needs to be replaced, but everything works great! Should I worry about axle fluids, u-joints, plugs etc. on a 21K van? I'm not sure what to look for 4x4 specific. I will be doing coolant, tranny fluid and other fluids before I put many miles on it. It was checked out by a mechanic who I spoke to personally. He said other than the rust under it (mostly just surface rust) mechanically it looked and felt pretty good. I may just be a little paranoid because I know from experience a vehicle which has sat is almost always worse than one that has been used a lot, regardless of miles. I'm kind of unsure what might need to be replaced just from sitting.

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I'd do all the fluids, for a start. Brake fluid and coolant are way out of date. An oil analysis on the drained engine oil (if you haven't already changed it) might not hurt, either -- just to make sure it wasn't sitting all that time with bad oil etching surfaces in the engine, no partial seizure that loosened up when it was started, etc. Any strange oil analysis readings you should investigate further, otherwise it will help your peace of mind if it comes back good.

Drain and flush fuel tank probably a good idea, as well, make sure no rust, flakes, etc. in the tank.

After that, take a close look at any rubber parts -- bushings, belts, hoses, etc. They can harden up over time, especially with no use.

carringb 08-26-2013 08:01 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Do the plug wires too. They are no doubt hard and cracking from age. Don't go cheap on those. I really like the Napa Belden Edge wires. They are almost double the other brands, but they actually fit right like OEM wires, but are more flexible and have better conductivity. Most aftermarket wire sets only fit "close enough".

86Scotty 01-05-2014 07:45 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
It's about to start updating this thread again. Rusty has sat idle for a couple of months but now my schedule and funds have somewhat opened up. The door panels were hideous, especially the front ones. I never have been crazy about the older style Ford door panels, and SMB made them even uglier, so out they all came. I scored a set of OEM tan panels off a 2001 van that are MUCH better looking, and now the dash, panels, seat belts, etc. all match. I am in the process of repainting the top half of the side and rear panels. I wanted to use them since they have the curtains molded in.
Here's the old:

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...f82d8f3bdb.jpg
and the new:

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...30e3870241.jpg

They match, it just doesn't look like it in that pic at all.

I've got paint and body work on the rain gutters lined up this week, then I can start on sandblasting the rust spots underneath.

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buckkiller 01-05-2014 11:50 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Looks great bud!
Buck

mikracer 01-05-2014 10:31 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Are the door panels from later model years a direct replacement for the earlier models? That panel looks great, but it looks like the power window controls are in a different location. I have the same panels that you took out and I'm missing some of the trim for the grab handle. Replacing them for something a little nicer would be awesome. Did everything fit/reach ok?

86Scotty 01-06-2014 03:56 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikracer
Are the door panels from later model years a direct replacement for the earlier models? That panel looks great, but it looks like the power window controls are in a different location. I have the same panels that you took out and I'm missing some of the trim for the grab handle. Replacing them for something a little nicer would be awesome. Did everything fit/reach ok?

Yes, they are a direct replacement, with only a couple of minor tweaks. If you have power windows, the switches themselves are the same and will screw right in to the switch housings of the newer panels. The power mirror control, if you have them, is not the same. Different switch, different plug. I played with sorting out the wiring to use the newer style switch (already in the panel), but gave up quickly and just trimmed the new panel housing for the old switch to fit in the new panel. IF you have manual windows I have no idea how things would work out. The crank locations could be totally different.
That's about it, except for cutting off one of the plastic hooks on the newer panel to fit in the old door. The newer panels have a series of hooks that hold the panel on, they slide in to holes on the door and the whole panel drops down about an inch in to place. There is one of these on the rear of the panel about halfway up that there is no hole for on the older doors.
Everything else fits easily. It took me about an hour to swap my older panels for the new ones (except for the power mirror switch adventure).
Hope that helps. I could snap some pics for anyone who is thinking of doing this.

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mikracer 01-06-2014 08:51 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Thanks for the info! I don't have power mirrors, so that wont be an issue. I guess its time for me to start looking for some panels!

86Scotty 01-07-2014 08:58 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Good luck finding a set! It took me awhile. If you have a gray interior or want one they are plentiful and you can just piece a set together over time. I don't think they fade as much either. I needed tan to match my doghouse and dash. In my experience the tan/beige interior vans are about 1 in 100 gray ones. I really lucked out in finding a complete matching set and the seller basically could have named any price, but luckily he gave me a great deal.

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mikracer 01-07-2014 10:16 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
I know my dash is a dark grey color, but not sure what color my dog house is. The rest of my interior is TEAL.

What are you doing with your old panels? If you are tossing them, I would be interested in buying the little trim pieces for the grab handle. A few of mine are broken and I don't know where I would be able to find them.

86Scotty 01-07-2014 03:50 PM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikracer
I know my dash is a dark grey color, but not sure what color my dog house is. The rest of my interior is TEAL.

What are you doing with your old panels? If you are tossing them, I would be interested in buying the little trim pieces for the grab handle. A few of mine are broken and I don't know where I would be able to find them.

Yep, SMB is famous for changing that stuff around. I'd like to know what they did with all of the original panels that came in the van! They looked a lot better than the 80's stuff they were putting in vans in the 90's. BTW, your color (dark gray) is rare IMO. I have seen them, but just a few. Can you shoot a pic of the parts you are looking for? Glad to help if I can.

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86Scotty 01-28-2014 06:31 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Rusty's rehab............continued.

I've taken a break from the interior for awhile to get the underside back in shape. I had a great and informative talk with Ramsey (BajaSportsmobile) yesterday and got him some pics to prepare my Fox Quigley suspension upgrade, so I will be getting new shocks, springs, stabilizer, etc. Woohoo!
I have decided to stay with the Quigley original height (which I think is a 4" lift) and probably 285s. I really think that is all I will need for my purposes and the Fox upgrade should make it a fairly capable machine.

Also, as posted in another thread, my fuel tank leak was a quick fix for now. Sandblasting underneath this van has been messy, but it's not really as bad under there as I thought. It's the thin metal that took a beating mostly, aux fuel tank straps, exhaust heat shields, etc.

Here's the rear tank partially dropped:
https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...5815d9ae7a.jpg

A big problem with these older Transferflow tanks is that they come all the way back to the bumper, which makes putting a receiver hitch on them nearly impossible. I'm going to attempt to move it forward but I have to leave a little room between it and the rear dif and there's not a lot of space there.

Here's the cleaned up and undercoated tank and one wheel well mostly done. I'm still going to clean up more and spray something on the frame.

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...2cbf686916.jpg

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...7428e38248.jpg

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...f87476a7a7.jpg

More to come...........

REF 01-28-2014 07:13 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Eric, nice project you've got going on! The fox shock upgrade will be a huge improvement. What about the rear spring pack, deavers? Also, check quigley's torque arms for cracks, prob will be fine with the low mi. but they put out a service bulletin on those square tubes years ago and have a round upper/lower bar replacement available, I went with CCV's adjustable/rebuildable replacements, very well built. By the way, what started out as just wanting to replace our canvas with Derek's insulated version to replacing it with his complete low profile top, has now turned into replacing it with his new high profile pop top with a custom full wrap rack! Oh boy! Couldn't pass up the interior space that thing provides, storage and convenience of leaving the bedding up there. That's what you get when you bring the wife to see the options! I'll post up progress, not starting for a few months.

86Scotty 01-28-2014 08:38 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Cool Ref, thanks! You'll love what CCV does in terms of space. It'll be nice.

I'm familiar with Deavers, but have to take my time here. For now I'm staying with this spring pack and adding my Sportrite Airbags for heavy loads only, but first I will see how it sits and rides without those. Derek's front control arms are wicked too but will have to be later. I have an interior to do too so getting it rolling is the first order of business.

Keep us posted on your progress with the top!

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buckkiller 01-28-2014 11:44 AM

Re: Look what just drove up in my driveway, it's Rusty!
 
Van looks great bro, keep the pics coming.....
Buck


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