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jedsled 12-15-2013 11:18 PM

older gen (1991-older) sportsmobile type vans...who's gotem?
 
Well guys, I'm starting my own sportsmobile build and purposely chose an older (1990) ford van to build on. My reasoning for an older van is that I don't wanna have to deal with computers and such, and want something that's mrchanically easier for myself to work on.

If anyone on here has or has built a sportsmobile type van on a 1991 or older vehicle, please post pics, info, or links to your builds, I'd love to have more info or inspiration!

86Scotty 12-16-2013 09:12 AM

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You already bought one? Or you are about to? I would recommend 92-97 or so for ease of finding parts that they share with all the newer vans, body and aftermarket parts primarily. They aren't very computerized.

:b5:

rockbender 12-16-2013 10:07 AM

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Dookie:

I have more 'conservative' wheels and tires now, but I always liked this photo.

Welcome to the forum - lots of great information here. Tell us a bit more about your rig!

jedsled 12-16-2013 07:48 PM

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Well guys, I bought a rust free 1990 ford econoline class b camper van to modify to fwd. I bought one donor diesel ambulance cause I'm swapping out the 351 and goin oil burner and needed the diesel core support, motor mount, etc. I have a new rebuilt 7.3 that's goin in, and swapping a zf5 manual transmission for od and better mpgs. For transfer case I'm goin np205 cause I wanted sumthin that's bulletproof. I already have the dana 60 front axle and am hoping with the size tires i wanna go with, the 4.10 gearing will be good. I will be buying the hypermax turbo/intercooler/exhaust/air induction kits for it to increase power and mpgs. What I'm undecided on is the lift... I want to put hummer beadlocks with 37" tires on it, and I'm not afraid to cut wheel wells and use fender flares, but I'm not sure if despite cutting wheel wells if the 6" suspension lift will work or if I'm gonna hafta go 8" lift.

I like the simplicity of the older stuff... I had a newer class c (1994) motorhome and all the computers and sensors and issues regarding such was annoying. I'm doing all the work myself, and want to continue to be able to do all the work myself if it breaks down. Again, I will sacrifice a couple mpgs for simplicity, durability, and being able to fix a problem myself.

I still need pics and info, especially concerning size of lifts and tires on the older vans. Please keep em coming!

jedsled 12-16-2013 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockbender
Dookie:

I have more 'conservative' wheels and tires now, but I always liked this photo.

Welcome to the forum - lots of great information here. Tell us a bit more about your rig!


What size lift and tires in this pic?

stanw909 12-16-2013 09:13 PM

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What you 're about to undertake does not sound simpler to me and here in The Peoples Republic of Cali ,would never be registerable. I do like your moxie.

rockbender 12-17-2013 12:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jedsled
What size lift and tires in this pic?

Tires in this pic are 315/75R16 (so just shy of 35"). Those were mounted on 10" wheels with a bit of offset - they looked good, but the slider door wouldn't clear. I now have 295/75R16's on 8" wheels and they look much more civilized.

I believe the rear has 3" or 4" blocks. Not ideal, but it seems to work fine. The front has custom spring perches that I think equate to about a 4" lift. So it may be a 2"-3" lift over a normal Pathfinder van of this era?

taylorvon 12-17-2013 08:58 PM

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Here's mine...

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11103

jedsled 12-18-2013 05:50 AM

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Thanks for the info rockbender, nice rig.

jedsled 12-18-2013 05:53 AM

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I've seen and commented on urs before taylorvon, and I still like it! Great idea about linex on the doghouse, I will have to modify mine for the zf5, so I think the linex is perfect for covering up the fiberglass job I will have to do.

jedsled 12-18-2013 08:11 PM

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Rockbender, what mpgs were you getting and what gearing are you running in your axles? Your van is a diesel with a turbo, correct?

rockbender 12-18-2013 09:36 PM

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Yes, 6.9 with a Banks Turbo. I've got a C6 with a Gear Vendor overdrive and 4.10 axles. It still runs too tall of RPM in my opinion, even with 33/34" tires. I'd love to have an E4OD (or the ZF5) with the GV for a double OD and keep the 4.10 gears, or go to 3.55's. Funny thing is that the previous owner re-geared to 4.10 only a few thousand miles before I bought it - he used it to tow a travel trailer and wanted the extra gears.

Right now I'm pretty much seeing a lifetime average of about 12 mpg, with highway driving about 13 or so. I was honestly expecting more even from the C6/GV/4.10 combo. I've heard of guys with IDI's with a C6/4.10 (and no OD!) getting 15+. I'm still tinkering with IP timing, and my new IP is barely broken in so I'm hoping to squeeze a bit more economy out of it as I get everything dialed in.

jedsled 12-18-2013 11:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockbender
Yes, 6.9 with a Banks Turbo. I've got a C6 with a Gear Vendor overdrive and 4.10 axles. It still runs too tall of RPM in my opinion, even with 33/34" tires. I'd love to have an E4OD (or the ZF5) with the GV for a double OD and keep the 4.10 gears, or go to 3.55's. Funny thing is that the previous owner re-geared to 4.10 only a few thousand miles before I bought it - he used it to tow a travel trailer and wanted the extra gears.

Right now I'm pretty much seeing a lifetime average of about 12 mpg, with highway driving about 13 or so. I was honestly expecting more even from the C6/GV/4.10 combo. I've heard of guys with IDI's with a C6/4.10 (and no OD!) getting 15+. I'm still tinkering with IP timing, and my new IP is barely broken in so I'm hoping to squeeze a bit more economy out of it as I get everything dialed in.

I'm hopin my combo of the 37's, 4.10 gearing, zf5 speed, and diesel with turbo will give me a 15mpg ave... keepin my fingers crossed. My 06 cummins finally broke in at 60k and I'm gettin 23mpg hiway with it...

muelltime 01-10-2014 05:36 PM

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Got a '89 - Not a 4X4 though...

daveb 01-11-2014 06:48 PM

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That's a really clean looking rig...looks brand new.

muelltime 01-12-2014 03:04 PM

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Thanks! It was pretty rough when first picked up. Took about a year to restore.

Vegasrandall 01-12-2014 03:25 PM

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KISS has always been my byword. after many years working as a aerospace tech I'm tired of complicated crap and computers. I bought a 77 chevy short wheelbase sportsvan 2 WD for $600. I changed out the 3 speed manual
for a 700R4. took out the trashed engine and put in a 350 with headers, street cam and flowmaster exhausts.a home built poptop is in the plans.
It's been a work in progress for the last year and a half and it's almost at the drivable stage.

E350MAN 02-02-2014 11:47 AM

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I've got a 1990 E350 7.3 IdI E4OD 4;10 gears...was 3:55...which were too tall with 33" tires...like the 4:10's better....GV would be great for gear splitting between 1-2-3.....with 3:55 if I was careful 55-60 got a best of 22-23 once (tailwind in ND) overall I got about 15 or so city..18 or so Highway....driving in the Sierras...

I too am going thru the van completely...changed from slider to barn doors.....had side window from donor van put in left side...

I want to put a manual in it and was thinking of putting in a ZF 5 speed...been procrastinating on that one cuz I really want to put in a 12 valve cummins and ZF 6 speed....( I have the clutch pedals out of a 6 cylinder E250) you can find em!

Still have to finish interior...project going long cuz I travel a lot!

I do have a Dana 44 HD with 3:55 4 link Quigley setup in my garage...waiting for a new home...YES I did put a Dana 60 with ARB's in it ...and the 44 is viewed as a little light but it never gave me any problems and worked just fine....

will post pics soon!

jedsled 03-16-2014 04:27 AM

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E350man... I also scored van clutch pedals, although they aren't for a hydraulic set up... I've been thinking of doing custom hydraulic clutch pedal set up used for hot rods to simplify my set up...

wdstang 04-13-2014 08:02 PM

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Hello all. I have a 1971 VW sportsmobile.

mwilliamshs 04-13-2014 10:58 PM

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Here's mine, 1989 2wd E150 4.9, C6, 3.08. Just bought it, hence the "For Sale" stuff on the windows. It's not gonna be sold again for a long long time.

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...3da21a4f5e.jpg

jage 04-14-2014 07:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mwilliamshs
Here's mine

That oldschool EB panel :b5:

rallypanam 04-14-2014 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mwilliamshs
Here's mine, 1989 2wd E150 4.9, C6, 3.08. Just bought it, hence the "For Sale" stuff on the windows. It's not gonna be sold again for a long long time.

Oh man, another one of them dirty bikers from ADVrider...

jedsled 05-02-2014 12:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by E350MAN
I've got a 1990 E350 7.3 IdI E4OD 4;10 gears...was 3:55...which were too tall with 33" tires...like the 4:10's better....GV would be great for gear splitting between 1-2-3.....with 3:55 if I was careful 55-60 got a best of 22-23 once (tailwind in ND) overall I got about 15 or so city..18 or so Highway....driving in the Sierras...

I too am going thru the van completely...changed from slider to barn doors.....had side window from donor van put in left side...

I want to put a manual in it and was thinking of putting in a ZF 5 speed...been procrastinating on that one cuz I really want to put in a 12 valve cummins and ZF 6 speed....( I have the clutch pedals out of a 6 cylinder E250) you can find em!

Still have to finish interior...project going long cuz I travel a lot!

I do have a Dana 44 HD with 3:55 4 link Quigley setup in my garage...waiting for a new home...YES I did put a Dana 60 with ARB's in it ...and the 44 is viewed as a little light but it never gave me any problems and worked just fine....

will post pics soon!




Where's the pics????.....

Quercus 05-02-2014 07:21 AM

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https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...06d40f7167.jpg

Just put a deposit on this one -- will have it by Saturday. It's an '89 Ford with a 5.0. Was originally a conversion van that was taken in to Sportsmobile. Rear dinette, door side sink, no stove. 83k. I think it needs some suspension work -- pretty wallowy going down the road. I'll be looking for advice on upgrading the E150 springs etc.

Quercus 05-02-2014 03:13 PM

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https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...20398a1562.jpg

https://www.sportsmobileforum.com/att...8f5548082e.jpg

Hopefully these "before" pictures will be different from the end result after I spruce it up a bit!

E350MAN 05-03-2014 11:48 AM

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JEDSLED traveling will have to wait until I get home in a month or so.....did just put a hydroboost system on it before I left....didn't get to test it yet though! also put a red box steering gear in it!

Quercus 05-03-2014 05:48 PM

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Picked it up today. Time to get it ready for the summer camping season. You guys seem to have very nice vans -- ours is going to be a little sad compared to some of the sweet rigs I see on here-- here's hoping that y'all can help me get our rig up to snuff.

bburrito 08-28-2014 10:58 PM

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Im rockin a 1991 E350 4x2 with the diesel. I would send some pics but its currently getting some work done down in Mexico. Rebuilding the transmission and looking at replacing the rear suspension. Already replaced the front suspension myself with the help of my dad. Next up is ripping out the interior, repainting it, and then laying down dynamat before putting in new flooring and reupholstering all of the seats. Cant wait to have it all done! Ive had this thing for about 5 years now and just now finally being able to redo it. Oh, also looking at putting in an electrical system with an inverter, air conditioner, and the ability to run on shore power, portable generator or off the alternator.


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