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moorefc 08-07-2018 02:03 PM

Would be interesting to know how they pulled that one out! No trees on that cliff to grab, and not much room to maneuver...

BroncoHauler 08-07-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moorefc (Post 232646)
Would be interesting to know how they pulled that one out! No trees on that cliff to grab, and not much room to maneuver...

I'm still trying to figure out how they got into that flopped-over position on a narrow road. I can't imagine they went that far right onto the embankment.


Herb

moorefc 08-07-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoHauler (Post 232651)
I'm still trying to figure out how they got into that flopped-over position on a narrow road. I can't imagine they went that far right onto the embankment.


Herb


We probably don't see the area that initiated the rollover since he must have been rolling along...so to speak..Looking at the left tires positions the van was pretty far right, maybe to avoid the rock drop bumper grind?? Ouch...

MountainBikeRoamer 08-07-2018 03:51 PM

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Without a slightly-higher-resolution image, it's hard to be totally sure....

.....but those look like some fairly-tame tires on that rig (to be tackling that trail.) It's possible he wasn't getting the best traction with those things, maybe wasn't adequately aired down, all conjecture of course.

rob_gendreau 08-08-2018 05:07 PM

Yeah, my first thought was that where the snatch line goes over the lip makes it look kinda steep, and maybe the left front dove and it rolled on its left shoulder, so to speak and slid a bit. be interesting to know how they righted it. Real world is always far more complex than any training you do with winches, etc.

TomH 08-08-2018 06:30 PM

I wonder what the rating level was for that particular trail. I know that a 2wd Westphalia once completed the White Rim Road in Canyonlands, but there are some trails in there that are only for rock crawling OHVs.

I have to wonder if the driver was so nervous about the drop on the left that he/she overcompensated by letting the right wheels ride way too high on the embankment to the right. (Or perhaps an inexperienced passenger demanded that the driver do so. My mother-in-law from the flatlands of south Georgia literally yelled and screamed at me to do that even on a paved mountain road.)

86Scotty 08-08-2018 09:17 PM

2wd Westfalias are anomalies though. Those things will go anywhere!

Hard to believe the tires on that van, good eye Mike.

MadScience 08-09-2018 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Scotty (Post 232739)
Hard to believe the tires on that van, good eye Mike.

I had to go back and forth between that image and some BFGs a couple of times to conclude the same thing. Good eye indeed.

Without knowing more, I'd guess they rode up on the inside wall. You can put a vehicle on it's side or even roof shockingly suddenly by riding a tire up into a snow bank. The only difference with a stone wall would be the amount of traction, making it even more effective.

But really, I don't think we have enough information here to draw any real conclusions. I just hope no one was injured in any non-trivial way, and it wasn't too much work to get the thing upright and out of there.

Nrobert10 08-09-2018 09:55 AM

If I remember correctly and if this indeed is the picture Bob was referring to and the overland rally he indicated they drive too high on the wall trying to avoid a hole or drop off and it rolled over.

moorefc 08-09-2018 10:06 AM

A neighbor of the owner verified the vehicle and that it has been repaired and is back in the driveway in Az...
Looking forward to hearing the story from the owner next time we get down that way.......

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