Driving Tips

[surfgeek33]

Hello all

Our family will be going on a 15 day trip to Yellowstone, Calgary Canada, and other places along the way. Besides our camping trips with-in California, my wife and I have never driven outside the California border (except Vegas of course).

Any tips from all of you "veterans of the road", such as when to use engine breaking (what is a safe RPM and MPH for the engine while doing this), road etiquette, supplies, etc. will be appreciated.

Thanks all!

Ray and Ruby :c3: :b5: :c4:

 

[LeadDoggy]

Done plenty of miles on the road, either by auto, van or motorcycle. All i can say is keep to right except to pass and try not to exceed the posted speed limit by no more than 10 over. It has always worked for me.

A Good Trip is a Safe Trip!

 

[yvrr]

Any tips from all of you "veterans of the road", such as when to use engine breaking (what is a safe RPM and MPH for the engine while doing this), road etiquette, supplies, etc. will be appreciated.

As mentioned before, turn the overdrive off in mountainous or hilly terrain so that the transmission isn't "hunting". If it isn't already off, turn off the overdrive at the start of any long downgrade. On very long downgrades, I try to stay down around 55 mph or so and will downshift to second if needed to do that to avoid heating up and warping the rotors. You can easily shift to second at 55 mph.

I'd been concerned about over-revving in the past when downshifting and finally put added a tachometer to our rig. However, I discovered that between the engine computer and the sound of the engine at high revs, you don't need a tach...I just removed it recently. (On really steep downgrades such as on the east side of the Sierras on minor highways such as SR-4, I'll lock the hubs and put it in 4WD in order to use low range in order to stay off the brakes.)

We've been back to Yellowstone, Utah, etc. several times and one nice thing that you'll find is that traffic tends to run at the same speed, trucks included, unlike in California where everyone feels a need to go faster than the person in front of them, regardless of the speed of traffic. On I-80 across Nevada, get a nice stopping distance between yourself and the vehicle in front of you and you'll probably follow that same car all of the way to Utah.

 

[jage]

You'll find that the SMB is about as comfortable as anything to drive across country.

Personally I always use engine braking, with the diesel it's excellent. The only time I take it out of overdrive is for engine braking, or I should say the only time I've needed to.

The "transmission hunting" is a valid reason for turning overdrive off, but I've never been in a situation where this happens. I think a lot of people turn OD off to avoid the transmission going between gears over and over before it ever happens. In other words I'd leave OD alone on the upslopes unless your tranny starts getting confused about which gear to be in.

Otherwise keep those seatbelts on (even in the back!) and enjoy the trip!

 

[charlie56]

Regarding supplies
We carry a soft sided ice chest (REI) that fits between the front seats. We carry all our drinks in it rather than taking space up in the refrigerator. It gives us a supply of ice at the end of the day for margaritas.

 

[Ed in Montana]

We carry a soft sided ice chest (REI) that fits between the front seats. We carry all our drinks in it rather than taking space up in the refrigerator. It gives us a supply of ice at the end of the day for margaritas.

Charlie always travels in style, I must admit.

Another tip is to always be scanning for wildlife in the road through most of that country from Yellowstone to Banf. Considering the SMB's slow braking system, I keep it at 65 and below even on interstates. Deer are everywhere in Montana and cause a ton of accidents suddenly jumping into the roadway.

Headed north on I-15 along the Missouri River a couple of weekends ago, a black bear cub ran in front of our SMB, probably 50 yards ahead of us. It was no problem to slow down for me, but the cub raced across the road and leapt over the jersey barriar in front of a clutch of motorcyclists. I frantically flashed my lights to warn them of the unseen bear in my lane.

The bear safely crossed the road, but it could have ended badly for the motorcyclists, had the cub crossed a few seconds later.

Try not to travel fast at dawn and dusk and stay alert for charismatic megafauna in the roadway.

 

[daveb-SMB]

Have a great trip Ray. I just got back from Yellowstone area. Take a few flash cards cause there is a lot of pictures to be took. Nice to have a backup camera too.

Just incase you don't know that on off road situations or narrow roads, the person traveling up hill has the right of way. I usually remember this by thinking how difficult it would be to have to back down a steep grade with a trailer. Just remember some don't know this. Best to get out and discuss with the other party because there are times the rule may not apply.

Get a radar detector. (check state law)

To save time get all your maps before you leave.

If possible have the numbers of repair shops in the major areas you visit before you leave home just in case. I carry a sat phone.

Look for the cheapest fuel on-line before you leave. On a recent trip it seemed like every time I fueled up I got a mile of so down the road and found fuel a dime or more cheaper.

Do you have a scan gauge? Very nice to have.

A tire plug kit is also nice to keep on board. Hope you have a compressor of some type.

I'm sure thers is more. So what route you gonna take?

Dave

 

[surfgeek33]

Thank you so much for all of your tips and suggestions. I will definitely keep all of your advice and apply them on this and future trips!

Dave,
We will most likely take the I-15 until salt lake and enter Yellowstone thru Grand Teton. Any Advice? We are still pondering on the route to Calgary. Thanks for all of your suggestions and tips as well!

Ray

 

[Marc-SMB]

Dave,
If you're going all the way to Calgary, make sure you head on up to Banff and Lake Louise. It's not that much farther and the camping up there is awesome. If you do that, you can travel back down the West side of the Canadian Rockies via HWy 93 S. Super pretty! If you're into seeing the best part of the Canadian Rockies, venture up the Icefield Parkway to Jasper. Contact me if you want ideas for camping in those areas. We've spent a lot of time up there. Also, make sure you take passports and be prepared to see some cool stuff.

Marc

 

[alta825]

Ray,
Let me know if you need any info on any UT campsites along I-15 as you're heading north.

There's some pretty cool stuff not too far off of 15 if you're not in a huge hurry.

safe travels!

-derek

 

[daveb-SMB]

Post em Derek I would also like any info myself. :a4:

Ray I stayed at Great Basin National Park (Nevada/Utah border) as one of my stops but that's slightly off your path. It's supposed to have a great 2 hour cave tour. It can be a little warm there but it's up in altitude and cooler than the desert area. I was able to make the drive from the Tetons to GBNP in about 10 hours. In the Tetons I stayed at Lizard Creek CG which was nicer than others as far as campgrounds go. I saw several camps before you get to Jackson. I was in such a rush I didn't have time to locate boondock sites. There is supposed to be a great CG close to the Morgan Junction that is up a dirt road. Might be full during hunting season but it looked like the best spot for a SMB. Plan on several days in the area if you plan to see much. I never really looked at camping in Yellowstone. Lizard Cr is about 8 miles from the Yellowstone kiosk. so it was kind of central during my stay. I'll find my notes and post more info later. Oh and if you got a camera that you can put a filter on the lens, take a polarizer filter...it will help shooting into the pools and helps with colors. I'll post a few pics.
Dave

 

[Greggde]

Ray and Ruby ,
You have picked one of the best time's of the year to make your Yellowstone Trip . All of the previously posted tip's are worthwhile and I would like suggest that you stop at predetermined milages as this makes for pleasant family relation's( Ruby and your Children ) I would also suggest that on your way up or on your return trip try taking Utah Highway 89 from St.George (going up) or from Provo on your return . This will add approximately four hour's of driving time thru some of the most dramatic geology in the U.S. Short excursion's will take you thru Zion , Red Canyon Cedar Breaks and Bryce National Park .We have taken this route dozen's of time's over the last forty year's and never been disappointed , in fact my children remember this side trip better than any of the trip's abroad or domestic . it will make for a very pleasant addition to your Adventure ! Be Safe and Enjoy .
Greggde

 

[surfgeek33]

Greg,

Thank you so much for your advice. If time permits, we will definitely try take the 89 on the way home, because we don't want to loose our reservation at Yellowstone. Thank you again for all of your help with our build and other things!

Ray

 

[Greggde]

Yellowstone or Bust

Ray and Ruby ,
Have a wonderful time and take along the two appropriately sized Nut Driver's , to check and snug your awning bolt's if necessary it will only take a few second's to do and you will eliminate some of the problem's that other's have had . Drive safe and I know that you will enjoy .
Greggde

 

[LeadDoggy]

looking forward to the trip report with pictures!

 

[Jhgregg]

camping around jackson

Hey R & R I live in jackson and if you need any info on camping, we know lots good places that are free and close to the parks. If you make it to north east yellowstone beartooth pass is worth checking out. Have a great trip!!!!

 

[AEJ]

Yellowstone Park

Ray & Ruby,

You can't go wrong going to Yellowstone/Grand Teton NP. Keep your camera handy at all times as you just don't know when you'll see wildlife (sometimes it's human)! I'm leaving Yellowstone tomorrow to go to Fresno for some service on my van. I like all the suggestions for interesting stops along the way.

Here's a link to some low grade pics that I put up for my family and friends:http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slidesh...24608.418256189208.1220504403117&conn_speed=1

These pics are not to be compared to the pros we have on this forum!

 

[Christopher Thwaites]

If you travel through Glacier Natl. Park into Canada be sure to drive through the Kanaskas Wilderness. Unbelievable campgrounds. I was last through there in 85. Firewood was provided free! I wonder if they still do that. Going to Banff and Lake Louise be sure to have some good bug repellent. Sceeters up there are big enough to stand flat footed and breed with turkeys.

 

[surfgeek33]

looking forward to the trip report with pictures!

Will definitely do when we get back!

Thanks for the great pics Al....you're getting us all excited!