F-350 rear axle in E-350 dually chassis

[ScrapIron]

I installed a Dana 60 out of a 2005 F-350 dually 4x4 in the front my E-350 Chinook.
The only real issue is the 8x200mm lug pattern which i addressed by using Dodge wheels.

Im now ready to address the rear suspension and axle. I would like to get a dually axle with the same 8x200 lug pattern so all of my wheels are the same. (Note, the dually trucks use an 8x200 lug pattern)
I already have all of the wheels.

Does anyone know how much of a chore it is to install the F-350 rear axle into the E-350 chassis? My truck has dual rear wheels.

Can i simply bolt the f-350 axle to the existing E-350 leaf springs or are there a bunch of changes that are required?

[carringb]

It depends. It won’t fit on the van body, but it may fit your RV body. The fenders in the van need just a little more width, and the F350 dually axle is about 1” narrower than an E350 dually axle. So if you have a half inch of extra inner fender clearance, you can run your F350 axle.

It won’t be a direct bolt in. Spring perches are wider on the E-series. And you’ll have to flip a shock mount on the axle (or add a bracket for staggered shocks on your chassis). And you’ll also need a new hybrid u-joint but that’ll be on the shelf at Napa.

[Lilnuts2]

Another thing to consider might be the speed sensors depending on what year your chassis is.

[ScrapIron]

carringb, ok thanks for the information. Looks like i will have to locate an axle and start doing a ton of measuring. I have a full set of the dodge wheels which are narrower than the ford wheels but they also have a slightly different offset.

Originally i was just going to have one off forged steel bearing hubs custom made by Inovative machine, which i may still do. But then i got really sick last september and am just now starting to feel well enough to even think about working on it again.

Lilnuts, my rig is a 2004 by vin number but a 2005 by title. My understanding is that the sensor from my old axle will fit in the F series axle and work fine if i use a 05 to 07 sterling axle. But then again thats based on a video i found on youtube so the grain of salt thing would apply. Thanks for the input, appreciated.

[carringb]

Yup. Speed sensor should be compatible.

[vandiesel]

I have a set of weld on perches for the leafs if you want them.

[ScrapIron]

Youre giving them away? Im still a ways off from needing them yet. I have to locate an axle that i can measure and then sit down and lay it all out on paper so i know what im doing.

But if it looks like it cant be done without using spacers i will stick with my original plan of having custom bearing hubs manufactured. With that said i appreciate your generous offer but i dont want to deprive someone else of something i may end up not using.

I know the F series having larger rear brakes than this Chinook has would be ideal. But just kicking it around in my head again, i think im going to end up spending at least as much for the F series axle as i will to have bearing hubs machined for the existing axle. Then i consider the time involved in the axle swap and my overall physical difficulties my current health presents.... I may just be better off keeping it simple with custom bearing hubs.

Only issue with the bearing hubs is months of turn around time.

Did you start swapping a sterling and abandon ship? How come you have an extra set of perches?

[mgmetalworks]

Before you have hubs machined, look at the hubs Ford already makes. I know it's a long shot but... go to Rockauto and look up dually hubs for your rig and for several years of Fseries duallies. The first thing you'll notice is that they all look very similar. Then look up which bearings and seals they use. A lot of Ford full float hubs use the same bearings and seals (which would lead one to believe that they probably fit the same spindle).

for instance, Motorcraft HUB144 (van) and Motorcraft HUB124 (2010-ish Fseries). They look to be very similar and the cost is reasonable enough that you could probably find one of the Fseries hubs and take a good look at it up close.

Besides the bearings, the axle bolt pattern has to match, the overall length of the axle has to be pretty close to the same and the rotor spacing, etc... Despite some of the potential differences, there are multiple hubs out there and one of them that might be the right combination.

[vandiesel]

[QUOTE=ScrapIron;310768]Youre giving them away? Im still a ways off from needing them yet. I have to locate an axle that i can measure and then sit down and lay it all out on paper so i know what im doing.

Yours if you want them...

[Vanimal]

I concur with MGmetal. Pretty much everything is available. What was a one off when designs change become over the counter. When ever you machine something your Starting the one off all over again, even if it's available. My 2 shinny copper penies.